I think it is a good starting point. How about if this is moved to a fixed schedule release permanently? Maybe weekly milestone releases and a monthly final release?
> On 13 Aug 2018, at 21:31, David Blevins <[email protected]> wrote: > > Our status is every time we discuss a release, we never agree and then one > never happens. We could have a trail of releases behind us by now. > > MicroProfile work is ongoing in both TomEE 8 and TomEE 7.1. It's not feature > complete, but there are complete features and it is usable now. The fear is > we'll get stuck an a "milestone or final" discussion for the next 3 weeks and > in that time we could have had a few releases up. Add to this that we always > throw away our first few release attempts and repeatedly re-roll. > > I'd like to propose this compromise to getting us unstuck. For the next two > months week do four releases, spaced evenly apart starting this week: > > - Fri Aug 17th TomEE 8 and TomEE 7.1 milestone > - Fri Aug 31th TomEE 8 and TomEE 7.1 milestone or final > - Fri Sep 14th TomEE 8 and TomEE 7.1 milestone or final > - Fri Sep 28th TomEE 8 and TomEE 7.1 final > > We call the first one a milestone and if it is not perfect, release it > anyway. When we notice we aren't messing them up we aim for the final of > both. That could happen the release after or at any point in the middle. > > What I think this gains us: > > - Takes pressure of the "final" discussion and release process > - Allows those of us not yet comfortable with final to get comfortable > - Very likely speeds up our chances of getting a releasable final sooner > - Ability to get some public momentum and anticipation > - Releasing is increasingly easier the more you do > - Provides opportunities to train more people in the release process > > It feels like an everyone wins compromise. > > What do you think about this approach to getting "unstuck" and would you like > to help cut releases? > > Absolutely there's a high chance we don't pull it off as perfectly as > imagined, but it feels like we'll do more harm to ourselves by not trying. > First MP feature was February, we're now August. We're definitely missing > out on opportunities to get our stuff out there. > > With this plan we'll either be 8.0 and 7.1 or even as far as 8.0.2 and 7.1.2 > by end of September. > > > -- > David Blevins > http://twitter.com/dblevins > http://www.tomitribe.com >
