No, normal operation causes the problem

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 4:11 PM Jonathan Gallimore <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Does something need to failover in this scenario, in order to reproduce it?
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM Jonathan S. Fisher <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >  Here's the ref: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-6391 The
> > scenario mentioned in the ticket is sending a message from an MDB, which
> > call connectionPool.getConnecion() twice. We actually haven't observed
> that
> > problem in practice (doesn't mean it's not happening though).
> >
> > >  I’d expect that transaction caching in the pooling would result in all
> > connection handles being associated with one managed connection in one
> > transaction
> > I actually wasn't aware this existed (go figure). This could be why we're
> > not seeing the issue on the MDB/Send a Message scenario.
> >
> > The scenario where we can reliably reproduce the problem is to have a
> Bean
> > Managed Transaction  start, send a bunch of messages, then commit the
> > transaction, all in the loop. While this isn't explicitly stated in the
> > original ticket, it has the same leak.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 1:13 PM David Jencks <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Could you explain this scenario further? Are there multiple activemq
> > > managed connections to different brokers but associated with the same
> > > connection handle? Or one managed connection associated with more than
> > one
> > > “physical” connection? I’d expect that transaction caching in the
> pooling
> > > would result in all connection handles being associated with one
> managed
> > > connection in one transaction.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > David Jencks
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Sep 30, 2019, at 10:10 AM, Jonathan S. Fisher <[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It was 5.15.9 that was causing problems with the failover transport
> > > (Which
> > > > is a best practice to use). Essentially you memory leak when two or
> > more
> > > > physical activemq connections get involved in an XA transaction
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 3:55 AM Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'm not against updating ActiveMQ on 7.0.x, but I suspect that might
> > > mean
> > > >> we lose compatibility with Java 7. I forget which version Jonathan
> > > (Fisher)
> > > >> is running, but I suspect that's not an issue for him.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'll take a look at the versions, and start a thread so the
> community
> > > can
> > > >> decide what to do.
> > > >>
> > > >> Jon
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 9:39 AM Zowalla, Richard <
> > > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Jonathan,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> current 7.1.1-SNAPSHOT branch is on ActiveMQ 5.15.10
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This update was conducted due to several CVE's related to its
> > transient
> > > >>> jackson-databind dependency.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> But, if I am right, you are still on 7.0.x - which has not been
> > updated
> > > >>> yet :)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best,
> > > >>> Richard
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Am Dienstag, den 24.09.2019, 10:57 -0500 schrieb Jonathan S.
> Fisher:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So I've got a test case, but it will likely just be isolated to us.
> > We
> > > were
> > > >>>
> > > >>> upgrading the ActiveMQ RAR to 5.15.9 to enable strict host checking
> > on
> > > TLS
> > > >>>
> > > >>> certificates. If we keep the stock ActiveMQ rar/jar we don't see
> the
> > > >>>
> > > >>> problem.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So I guess take note of that if someone ever asks for an upgrade,
> the
> > > >>>
> > > >>> failover protocol will collapse a 32m JVM after about 10k messages.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:20 PM Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I have opened this ticket and pushed a fix on both Java EE 7 and 8
> > API
> > > jar.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> New snapshot deployed.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm waiting for the full build on master to pass and then I'll
> close
> > > the
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ticket and fire up the 2 releases so you can move on with TomEE
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 3:03 PM Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Oh wow, that would be amazing!
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 10:49 PM Jonathan S. Fisher <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'll get a reproducer project put together that demos the bug.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 4:32 PM Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If we can come up with some good tests for it, I don't see why not.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jon
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 10:25 PM Jonathan S. Fisher <
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [email protected]>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We've been running 7.0.x latest in prod for a few weeks with no
> > > >>>
> > > >>> issues
> > > >>>
> > > >>> other than the ActiveMQ Failover protocol memory leak issue (which
> > > >>>
> > > >>> affects
> > > >>>
> > > >>> all versions of TomEE).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-6391 This is an issue
> > > >>>
> > > >>> now
> > > >>>
> > > >>> because
> > > >>>
> > > >>> our JMS Context / Connection Factories will actually be
> > > >>>
> > > >>> transactional
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Should/Could we patch the ActiveMQ jar?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 3:24 PM Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The Locator issue raised earlier today. Would be great to get the
> > > >>>
> > > >>> fix
> > > >>>
> > > >>> in
> > > >>>
> > > >>> before rolling.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 12:33 PM Jonathan Gallimore <
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm just doing some cleanup on these branches. I'm thinking its
> > > >>>
> > > >>> probably time we put out new releases as these branches have
> > > >>>
> > > >>> seen
> > > >>>
> > > >>> some
> > > >>>
> > > >>> fixes.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Is there anything that we think is missing before I kick off
> > > >>>
> > > >>> some
> > > >>>
> > > >>> releases
> > > >>>
> > > >>> and votes?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'd like to get the quartz-openejb-shade update if possible -
> > > >>>
> > > >>> that
> > > >>>
> > > >>> needs
> > > >>>
> > > >>> some more reviewers and votes.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jon
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jonathan | [email protected]
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Pessimists, see a jar as half empty. Optimists, in contrast, see it
> > > >>>
> > > >>> as
> > > >>>
> > > >>> half
> > > >>>
> > > >>> full.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Engineers, of course, understand the glass is twice as big as it
> > > >>>
> > > >>> needs
> > > >>>
> > > >>> to
> > > >>>
> > > >>> be.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jonathan | [email protected]
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Pessimists, see a jar as half empty. Optimists, in contrast, see it
> > as
> > > >>>
> > > >>> half
> > > >>>
> > > >>> full.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Engineers, of course, understand the glass is twice as big as it
> > needs
> > > >>>
> > > >>> to
> > > >>>
> > > >>> be.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Richard Zowalla, M.Sc.
> > > >>> Research Associate, PhD Student | Medical Informatics
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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> > > >>> Max-Planck-Str. 39
> > > >>> D-74081 Heilbronn
> > > >>> phone: +49 7131 504 6791
> > > >>> mail: [email protected]
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> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jonathan | [email protected]
> > > > Pessimists, see a jar as half empty. Optimists, in contrast, see it
> as
> > > half
> > > > full.
> > > > Engineers, of course, understand the glass is twice as big as it
> needs
> > to
> > > > be.
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan | [email protected]
> > Pessimists, see a jar as half empty. Optimists, in contrast, see it as
> half
> > full.
> > Engineers, of course, understand the glass is twice as big as it needs to
> > be.
> >
>


-- 
Jonathan | [email protected]
Pessimists, see a jar as half empty. Optimists, in contrast, see it as half
full.
Engineers, of course, understand the glass is twice as big as it needs to
be.

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