Hi,

May I ask how are those boms generated?

I'm trying to fix "EJB WebService with WS-Security" but what I can see is
that CXF is using xmlsec 2.2.1, but BOMs are generated with 2.1.4. I'm not
sure on how to fix this.

I fixed some simple ones in https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/779/files


Vicente.


On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 11:43 PM Vicente Rossello <cocorosse...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ok, let me take a look at it tomorrow, I'll see what I can do
>
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 9:06 PM David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Excellent.
>>
>> I've just updated the pom generation code to create all the "-api"
>> modules, published snapshots, and tried it out on a couple examples:
>>
>>  TomEE WebProfile example
>>  -
>> https://github.com/apache/tomee/commit/f0d09e3438036e32b37048968538c38c49ba7d14
>>
>>  TomEE MicroProfile example
>>  -
>> https://github.com/apache/tomee/commit/97f7e4b5038216891b711506689e144d4eae47ae
>>
>> Now we just need help updating all the examples like this.
>>
>> Vicente, would you be open to updating the examples that broke after the
>> CXF upgrade?  Looks like most of them are web service examples, so the new
>> tomee-plus-api and tomee-plus dependencies would probably work.
>>
>>  - https://builds.apache.org/job/Tomee/job/master-build-full/137/
>>
>> Anyone else interested in helping out?
>>
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 3, 2021, at 2:37 AM, Zowalla, Richard <
>> richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi David,
>> >
>> > thanks for the this thread!
>> >
>> > I like the idea of using the generated BOMs in our examples rather than
>> > adding libraries by hand (and updating them all the time).
>> >
>> > Sometimes it will be necassary to still add some additional libs in the
>> > examples, but overall it will make it easier to maintain the examples
>> > (as long as we get the habit of regenerating the BOMs after library
>> > updates).
>> >
>> > Related to the "*-api" idea: Probably yes. Would be somehow natural to
>> > have an "api" and an "impl"-thing (even if it not called impl).
>> >
>> > I just tested it locally with one of the failing tests and it worked
>> > perfectly.  So I am +1 here.
>> >
>> > Gruss
>> > Richard
>> >
>> > Am Freitag, den 02.04.2021, 15:09 -0700 schrieb David Blevins:
>> >> Richard mentioned some examples were broken after a recent library
>> >> upgrade and I promised to start a thread on the topic as we have
>> >> system issues there.
>> >>
>> >> One of the things that's aways bugged me and was on the "some day"
>> >> list is that in our examples we are encouraging people to have to
>> >> know how to put together the right dependencies to get a working
>> >> container for plain unit testing.
>> >>
>> >> Some examples show `openejb-core` and `javaee-api`, some show
>> >> `openejb-cxf-rs`, some show just `openejb-cxf`, some show `tomee-
>> >> jaxrs`, some also pull in specific dependencies like `cxf-rt-rs-
>> >> client`, some add a specific MicroProfile API.
>> >>
>> >> None of this documented anywhere, you just have to "know".  And any
>> >> time we upgrade our dependencies, users must upgrade theirs.   Any
>> >> time we change our excludes or mark things provided, users need to
>> >> add dependencies they weren't informed they now need.  We're setting
>> >> people up for failure and frustration.  Side note, this is one of the
>> >> reasons I really like having the examples in the main codebase as it
>> >> helps to keep us honest -- we experience the same things in our build
>> >> users experience in theirs.
>> >>
>> >> Some months back I wrote some code that will inspect a TomEE server
>> >> zip and generate a pom from it.  The poms have zero transitive
>> >> dependencies, every dependency is explicitly listed and it is
>> >> therefore library to library identical to the zip, but usable as a
>> >> plain maven dependency.  There is one for each of our servers:
>> >>
>> >>      <dependency>
>> >>        <groupId>org.apache.tomee.bom</groupId>
>> >>        <artifactId>tomee-webprofile</artifactId>
>> >>        <version>8.0.7-SNAPSHOT</version>
>> >>      </dependency>
>> >>      <dependency>
>> >>        <groupId>org.apache.tomee.bom</groupId>
>> >>        <artifactId>tomee-microprofile</artifactId>
>> >>        <version>8.0.7-SNAPSHOT</version>
>> >>      </dependency>
>> >>      <dependency>
>> >>        <groupId>org.apache.tomee.bom</groupId>
>> >>        <artifactId>tomee-plus</artifactId>
>> >>        <version>8.0.7-SNAPSHOT</version>
>> >>      </dependency>
>> >>      <dependency>
>> >>        <groupId>org.apache.tomee.bom</groupId>
>> >>        <artifactId>tomee-plume</artifactId>
>> >>        <version>8.0.7-SNAPSHOT</version>
>> >>      </dependency>
>> >>
>> >> I recommend we take this opportunity to go through all the examples
>> >> and replace the use of individual TomEE dependencies in favor of one
>> >> of the dependencies above.  Once we've done that, the odds of our
>> >> users or our examples being affected by library changes drops
>> >> significantly.
>> >>
>> >> In writing this, the one gap I see is that we probably want an
>> >> equivalent API pom for each server dist.  Our examples tend to have
>> >> javaee-api marked as scope `provided` and the server jars marked with
>> >> scope `test` so code in `src/main/java` isn't depending on our
>> >> internals.  We could have an additional "api" pom that contains the
>> >> javaee-api jar, all microprofile-*.jar api jars and any API jars we
>> >> provide ourselves (at the moment that's just openejb-api.jar).
>> >>
>> >> That might give us examples that look like this in practice:
>> >>
>> >>      <dependency>
>> >>        <groupId>org.apache.tomee.bom</groupId>
>> >>        <artifactId>tomee-microprofile-api</artifactId>
>> >>        <version>8.0.7-SNAPSHOT</version>
>> >>        <scope>provided</scope>
>> >>      </dependency>
>> >>      <dependency>
>> >>        <groupId>org.apache.tomee.bom</groupId>
>> >>        <artifactId>tomee-microprofile</artifactId>
>> >>        <version>8.0.7-SNAPSHOT</version>
>> >>        <scope>test</scope>
>> >>      </dependency>
>> >>
>> >> It's tempting to think, "maybe the second dependency should have an
>> >> 'impl' suffix?"  I asked myself, thought through it and came out on
>> >> the "no" side.  There will be people who just want the one dependency
>> >> that has everything.  Specifically anyone using TomEE in an embedded
>> >> fashion, as plain libraries, or aiming to create an uber jar.  It's
>> >> only people who intend to deploy to a TomEE zip who need/want the two
>> >> differently scoped dependencies.  I also think to when I'm using
>> >> Arquillian and there is an "api" and "impl" jar for literally
>> >> everything and I forget to add one or the other, things fail, and I
>> >> think "seriously, I'm never going to chose a different
>> >> implementation, why are you making me do this?"  It's all the more
>> >> frustrating as you know darn well the impl dep needs a very specific
>> >> version of that api dep -- you can't just use an older or newer api
>> >> version and expect things to work.  Therefore I think having an
>> >> "everything" dep and an "apis-only" dep is just fine.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

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