I think, that the inconvience originates from the fact, that one has to
conduct a quick build w/o tests after changing a simple version string
- even if one does not expect any compile issues and just want to see
the impact in a CI/CD environment

The current "generate in the build" is tied to "package".


Am Mittwoch, dem 09.02.2022 um 15:33 +0100 schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro:
> Thanks David for the extra infra information. That makes the
> automation a
> bit harder indeed.
> 
> Let's keep the "generate in the build" as it is today and see if we
> can
> remember to push and when I say we, I mean "I" 😀
> 
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 3:15 PM David Blevins <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > The trick is that Apache doesn’t have any bot accounts that we
> > could use to
> > do commits to master.  So there really isn’t any way to use
> > Jenkins, GitHub
> > Actions, etc.
> > 
> > The limited functionality Apache does have for committing files is
> > for
> > website generation, but it is setup to only work for branches
> > called
> > “asf-site” (or something like that) and works from only one
> > specific
> > Jenkins node.
> > 
> > The best we could do is create a bot that made a PR one of us had
> > to merge
> > and/or get this to be done in the build and we ensure we remember
> > to commit
> > it. (We could potentially do both so there is a convenient backup
> > if we
> > forget to do the commit ourselves before we push).
> > 
> > -David
> > 
> > On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 8:51 AM Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > We have discussed many times with Richard on Slack mainly around
> > > this
> > > topic. But I wanted to discuss it over here and have some
> > > brainstorming.
> > > 
> > > We have had BOM files for quite a while. To avoid the pain to
> > > update and
> > > maintain them, David created a script to generate them. All good.
> > > 
> > > The problem comes when one is updating or adding or removing a
> > dependency.
> > > And I must apologize because it happened to me pretty much every
> > > single
> > > time. Richard has been looking after the build and fixing my
> > > garbage by
> > > generating again the BOM files to commit them. Thanks for that.
> > > 
> > > We discussed an approach to generate them in the build so Jenkins
> > > is
> > always
> > > happy. It works but it has bigger side effects in my opinion.
> > > 
> > > 1/ Jenkins does not commit and then it does not fix my garbage
> > > 2/ the snapshots the user uses don't reflect what the CI is
> > > testing which
> > > deserves the purpose.
> > > 3/ the mess is hidden and when cutting the release there is a
> > > risk for
> > the
> > > BOM files to not be up to date
> > > 
> > > I think we should revert this and at least let the build to fail
> > > so we
> > can
> > > fix it and maintain the BOM files.
> > > 
> > > I have also investigated Github actions. We could also create a
> > > couple of
> > > Github actions
> > > 
> > > - to generate the BOM files AND commit them to git if they
> > > changed. So
> > they
> > > are always up to date and the CI system runs on what the user is
> > > using
> > > 
> > > - check file headers to make sure they have ASLv2 header. This is
> > > a
> > common
> > > error and CI will fail with RAT/checkstyle/PMD in the sanity
> > > checks build
> > > 
> > > - do some updates on the website if needed
> > > 
> > > We could start with the BOM and look at the headers. They should
> > > be
> > fairly
> > > easy to handle and bring some immediate value.
> > > 
> > > What do you think?
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > 
> > --
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> > 

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