hi Thomas, commented inline
Le mar. 14 juin 2022 à 11:45, Thomas Andraschko <andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> a écrit : > yep, we probably dont have enough commiters to maintain it > but instead of freezing, shouldnt we maybe think about how to make it more > attractive and easier to get more contributors? > we have sooo many contributors in PrimeFaces as the project structure is > easier, everything in one repo, and so on > > if you check how many repositories we have for MP implementations, API, > homepage, ... > We actually did that > https://geronimo.apache.org/microprofile/ > > i always wondered about the whole EE projects and locations/structures in > apache in general > why is geronimo the place for specs in general? > i always thought that combining some repos/projects in general would make > contributions much more welcome and easier > it is generally a 50-50, to sumarrize: pro: single location con: too much inconsistent things at the same place > > > Wouldnt it be much more self-evident if we would have something like > https://github.com/apache/ee-specifications? > Wouldnt it be much more easier and more inviting if we would have all > microprofile impls in one repo? The time we even safe for all that release > trains > Was an option but people were not that homogeneous originally so dedicated repos was more consistent with the actual work and avoided the "all in one" pitfall that each contributor feels rejected due to a lot of work he does not care about happening. > > and this is my perspective as long time committer here @apache - just > think about how overhelming this is for new possible contributors > I think a big issue is that MP is mainly an implementation in its communication (all vendors joined to have a single impl so there is no real "spec" as EE was before) and that since they break quite often the *API* people started to avoid it in apps after some time where it was embraced so I'm not 100% sure even if I agree with the reasoning from a theory point of view > > > > > Am Di., 14. Juni 2022 um 11:04 Uhr schrieb Richard Zowalla < > r...@apache.org>: > >> Hi, >> >> CC'ing dev@tomee here to ensure the discussion is seen. >> >> It is true, that TomEE moved to smallrye to update MP to 5.0 (jakarta) >> due to a lack of contributors / resources to ramp up updated versions >> in Geronimo. >> >> I have no strong opinion about switching the project umbrella as it >> wouldn't change anything regarding contributions, I guess. >> >> Gruß >> Richard >> >> >> Am Dienstag, dem 14.06.2022 um 08:37 +0200 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > TomEE people didn't send much feedback and I know they are moving to >> > smallrye so can be great to know if we must continue this way or just >> > freeze the projects there? >> > Anyone able to comment? >> > >> > Romain Manni-Bucau >> > @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book >> > >> > >> > Le jeu. 9 juin 2022 à 11:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> a >> > écrit : >> > > OK, it sounds good to me then. >> > > >> > > Regards >> > > JB >> > > >> > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 8:13 AM Romain Manni-Bucau < >> > > rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Hi >> > > > >> > > > Next step is likely to ask tomee since for now we just get the >> > > consensus geronimo is a bad home for MP. >> > > > >> > > > If ok for them, I'd just move the project to tomee since, as >> > > mentionned, we didnt work much on these projects and tomee was >> > > driven last activity but guess it can be discussed on tomee thread >> > > once created. >> > > > >> > > > Le jeu. 9 juin 2022 à 07:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >> > > j...@nanthrax.net> a écrit : >> > > >> >> > > >> +1, it makes sense to me. >> > > >> >> > > >> I guess we gonna do a vote. The question is about the >> > > governance/PMC : >> > > >> I do we plan to move PMC from Geronimo to Tomee or "just" use >> > > Tomee >> > > >> PMC ? >> > > >> >> > > >> Regards >> > > >> JB >> > > >> >> > > >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 10:59 AM fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Hi all, >> > > >> > >> > > >> > I would like to start a thread to discuss about the future of >> > > the Apache >> > > >> > Geronimo Microprofile implementation: >> > > >> > >> > > >> > https://geronimo.apache.org/microprofile/ >> > > >> > >> > > >> > As we can see, we don't have a lot of traction about the >> > > maintenance of >> > > >> > the implementation to be up-to-date with the Microprofile >> > > specification. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > The J2EE Geronimo server is no longer exist and at Apache, the >> > > active EE >> > > >> > server seems to be Apache TomEE. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > May be it could make more sense to move the Microprofile >> > > implementation >> > > >> > to the Apache TomEE umbrella. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > WDYT? >> > > >> > >> > > >> > regards, >> > > >> > >> > > >> > -- >> > > >> > -- >> > > >> > François >> > > >> > >> >>
