Hello Richard,

> - Work has started on OpenJPA for JPA 3.2 on a separate branch / repo, so
not out to see in the original repo. I think, that help would be welcome on
their side.
> - We need to discuss how we want to deal with Jakarta Data (new spec);
would need to be implemented either as a separate project or in TomEE
itself.

Can I therefore interpret the outcome of the last discussion on this
subject ([DISCUSS] Future of OpenJPA in TomEE 11 / EE 11 [1]) as continuing
to use OpenJPA and implementing Jakarta Data either in a new Apache project
or directly in TomEE?

I am asking because I would like to help with this and with MicroProfile
7+, but I don't know if this type of discussion can be held in advance,
particularly in parallel with this point:

> - Next step on our side would be to start implementing the changes for
the specs (security, concurrency, …) which are implemented in TomEE itself.

Thanks

Skander


[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/o8hydq47hvfhqorooql90hc4kf1rbqtk

On Wed, Nov 19, 2025 at 8:10 PM Richard Zowalla <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have just updated our CI build definitions, created tomee-10.x and
> merged ee11 into main, so the current development is reflected on the main
> part of the GitHub repo ;-)
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
> > Am 18.11.2025 um 13:37 schrieb Markus Jung <[email protected]>:
> >
> > Hey David,
> >
> >
> > I'm +1 for merging EE11 into the main branch. IMO a main branch is where
> the main development happens and not some sort of stable branch, with the
> actual work happening being hidden away in a separate branch. In its
> current state it will obviously break the build. For me that's okay since
> TomEE 11 is still in its _very_ early stages. IMO fixing these tests should
> also be a higher priority than working on e.g. our security/concurrency
> implementations.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Markus
> >
> > On 11/18/25 01:37, David Blevins wrote:
> >> Thanks for this update, Richard.  Thanks also Markus for the work.
> >>
> >> What does everyone think about making this branch the main branch?
> >>
> >> People looking for stable branches can easily find them.  People
> looking to see activity in main can easily miss the branch.
> >>
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 16, 2025, at 12:18 AM, Richard Zowalla <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Markus and myself started the work on EE11 on this branch: [1]
> >>>
> >>> What is currently done:
> >>>
> >>> 1.) Markus upgraded the EE API Shade to EE11. Notably, some APIs were
> dropped that we still need in TomEE, so work was done to add those APIs
> back into TomEE (JAXB, etc.).
> >>> 2. ) We are currently using a custom CXF fork based on Reta’s work on
> CXF-8828 [2]. Similar to EE10, I forked his work branch and created an
> intermediate custom release until CXF provides something official. The
> forked code is available here: [3].
> >>> 3.) Although EE11 targets Java 17/21, the CXF team would like to
> require Java 21. I’ve commented on that, but it would be great if others
> could also voice their preference for Java 17 over Java 21 as the baseline.
> >>> An alternative would be to adopt Java 21 as the baseline for TomEE 11:
> [4]. Currently, the baseline on the ee11 branch is set to Java 21 (as the
> intermediate CXF fork did require it).
> >>> 4.) Build looks good so far. The tests, which are failing right now,
> are all related to the removal of the SecurityManager in Java 21. The build
> is here: [5]
> >>>
> >>> On our upstream dependencies:
> >>>
> >>> - Work has started on OpenJPA for JPA 3.2 on a separate branch / repo,
> so not out to see in the original repo. I think, that help would be welcome
> on their side.
> >>> - CXF has also started working on EE11 (see above)
> >>> - OWB also started for the CDI part.
> >>> - MyFaces is already EE 11 ready (afaik)
> >>>
> >>> What needs to be done:
> >>>
> >>> - Next step on our side would be to start implementing the changes for
> the specs (security, concurrency, …) which are implemented in TomEE itself.
> >>> - We need to discuss how we want to deal with Jakarta Data (new spec);
> would need to be implemented either as a separate project or in TomEE
> itself.
> >>> - Look into MicroProfile 7+ upgrades ;-)
> >>>
> >>> More updates will follow as the work progresses.
> >>> Feedback, testing, and comments are very welcome.
> >>>
> >>> Gruß
> >>> Richard
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://github.com/apache/tomee/tree/ee11
> >>> [2] https://github.com/reta/cxf/tree/CXF-8828
> >>> [3] https://github.com/rzo1/cxf/tree/CXF-8828
> >>> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-8828
> >>> [5] https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Tomee/job/tomee11-full/
> >>>
>
>

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