Ok, I will make sure the TP checkbox says "Validate Certificates” with
it checked by default.

However, Jonathan does bring up a good point about emitting a warning
for authority trust validation rather than an error. My worry is that
things in TP are typically binary: either the operation failed or it
was a success. If we return a warning with the 200 rather than
prohibiting it, the warning could go unnoticed leading to
unintentional deployment of self-signed certs. With the checkbox, it
requires that extra step of disabling validation when you are certain
the self-signed certs are okay before adding them.

Are you alright with that, Jonathan, as opposed to just allowing the
self-signed certs to go through with a warning?

- Rawlin
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:39 AM Gray, Jonathan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> There are some kinds of validation that should be errors such as mismatched 
> keys, broken chains, or cert ordering problems.  Authority trust validation 
> (against the TO system trusts) should be a warning.
>
> Jonathan G
>
> On 11/29/18, 7:45 AM, "Jeremy Mitchell" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     +1 on not doing no double negatives...you know what i mean :)
>
>     On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 6:35 AM Eric Friedrich -X (efriedri - TRITON UK
>     BIDCO LIMITED c/o Alter Domus (UK) Limited -OBO at Cisco)
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     > +1
>     > Sounds like a useful change, I know getting the right keys with the 
> right
>     > certs can be difficult.
>     >
>     > Is it possible to have the TP checkbox match the “polarity” of the API
>     > query parameter? Rather than “Skip Validation”, can the checkbox say
>     > “Validate Certs” and be checked by default?
>     >
>     > Its easier to conceptualize a positive rather than a double negative
>     > (unchecked so dont skip validation => Do validation).
>     >
>     > —ERic
>     >
>     >
>     > > On Nov 28, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Rawlin Peters <[email protected]>
>     > wrote:
>     > >
>     > > Hey Traffic Controllers,
>     > >
>     > > If you're running a recent release of master you may find that you
>     > > currently cannot _add_ self-signed certificates using the API (and by
>     > > extension TP). However, the API still allows generating self-signed
>     > > certificates. So, if your self-signed certs are generated by the API,
>     > > you probably won't have any issues with those right now. However, if
>     > > you're generating your self-signed certs through some other means than
>     > > the API (e.g. in order to add SANs to the cert), you may find that you
>     > > cannot currently _add_ those self-signed certs via the API. This is
>     > > because self-signed certs do not pass the new validation in the _add_
>     > > API endpoint. Since this new validation is a bit of a breaking API
>     > > change, I'm proposing the following:
>     > >
>     > > 1. By default, the deliveryservices/sslkeys/add endpoint will NOT do
>     > > any extra validation of the SSL cert being added. This is the old Perl
>     > > behavior and has led to a lot of headaches due to it being very easy
>     > > to add bad certs to a delivery service.
>     > > 2. Add a new query parameter to this API (?validate=true) which when
>     > > set to 'true' will actually perform the full validation of the
>     > > certificate being added.
>     > > 3. In Traffic Portal, add a checkbox next to the "Update Keys" button
>     > > (which makes a request to the _add_ endpoint) that says "Skip
>     > > certificate validation" or something. By default that checkbox will be
>     > > unchecked which will add the '?validate=true' query parameter, meaning
>     > > the certs will be validated. This would allow you to validate your
>     > > certs in the API/Traffic Portal up to the point where you believe the
>     > > only remaining issue is that they're self-signed. At that point you
>     > > would check the box to "skip validation" to allow the addition of your
>     > > self-signed certs.
>     > >
>     > > We really need to add validation of SSL certificates to this API
>     > > endpoint, but at the same time I don't want this to be a breaking API
>     > > change or require too much mental overhead in the UI. This would allow
>     > > us to get some cert validation by default in Traffic Portal but still
>     > > be able to bypass the validation for self-signed certs when needed. If
>     > > using the API directly, you wouldn't need to fix anything for
>     > > self-signed certs since the validation will not be done unless the new
>     > > query param is used.
>     > >
>     > > Please +1 if you agree with the proposal as-is, -1 if you disagree or
>     > > think the proposal needs fixing/adjusted (and please be clear on how I
>     > > can change that to a +1), or just reply with a +/-0 if you don't care
>     > > too strongly either way but have a different idea or some feedback to
>     > > give.
>     > >
>     > > - Rawlin
>     >
>     >
>
>
  • ... Rawlin Peters
    • ... Eric Friedrich -X (efriedri - TRITON UK BIDCO LIMITED c/o Alter Domus (UK) Limited -OBO at Cisco)
      • ... Dave Neuman
      • ... Jeremy Mitchell
        • ... Gray, Jonathan
          • ... Rawlin Peters
            • ... Gray, Jonathan
              • ... Jeremy Mitchell
    • ... Hank Beatty
      • ... Rawlin Peters
        • ... Hank Beatty
          • ... Dave Neuman
          • ... Rawlin Peters
            • ... Gray, Jonathan
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