https://github.com/danielmiessler/SecLists is now licensed MIT.
Thanks, Eric, for talking to Daniel Miessler for us and getting this
taken care of!

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Chris Lemmons <alfic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Excellent, Eric. That neatly cleans up the problem. I do think we
> should merge my PR (1677), regardless, if for no other reason than to
> honour the authors' attribution request.
>
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Eric Friedrich (efriedri)
> <efrie...@cisco.com> wrote:
>> I emailed the owner of the password file earlier today and he agreed to 
>> change or dual-license the project to MIT.
>>
>> —Eric
>>
>>> On Dec 18, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Phil Sorber <sor...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rob,
>>>
>>> Just because we remove it for now doesn't mean we have to leave it out
>>> forever. I encourage you to contribute to the thread on the legal mailing
>>> list to make your case or at least get an understanding of their
>>> requirements. The ASF does tend to lean toward conservative interpretations.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 12:08 PM Robert Butts <robert.o.bu...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's correct. No RPM, unfortunately. License is here:
>>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Projects/OWASP_SecLists_Project.
>>>>
>>>> -1 on downloading during rpmbuild, or especially postinstall. Both pose a
>>>> security risk. Moreover, it makes our build or install dependent on the
>>>> internet and a particular website. Neither building nor installing should
>>>> require either internet or a particular website; we should be working to
>>>> get away from that, not towards it.
>>>>
>>>> I'd prefer to find something Apache is ok with vendoring, if we have to.
>>>> Though, ideally we'd keep this one, Daniel Miessler is a well-known name in
>>>> the security community.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Dan Kirkwood <dang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,  Eric..    Then it's possible we could download it during
>>>>> rpmbuild or postinstall.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Eric Friedrich (efriedri)
>>>>> <efrie...@cisco.com> wrote:
>>>>>> It can be downloaded from Github.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this is the file (Rob correct me if I picked the wrong
>>>> variant):
>>>>> https://github.com/danielmiessler/SecLists/blob/
>>>>> master/Passwords/10_million_password_list_top_100000.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> —Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 18, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Dan Kirkwood <dang...@gmail.com<mailto:
>>>> dang
>>>>> o...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob,   is there a specific download location for this file?   I see it
>>>>>> referenced as "Projects/OWASP SecLists Project",  but didn't find it
>>>>>> with a quick search.   Is it possible it's provided by an rpm we could
>>>>>> list as a dependency rather than including in our source?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Robert Butts <
>>>> robert.o.bu...@gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:robert.o.bu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> I'd really like to keep this, or replace it with a similar file from
>>>>>> another source. Which I'd be willing to investigate, if necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having a good blacklist of most-common passwords specifically puts
>>>>> Traffic
>>>>>> Ops in compliance with NIST SP 800-63B.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also don't understand the objections, the Apache Legal FAQ
>>>> specifically
>>>>>> says CC-SA is permissible, and doesn't say anything about being limited
>>>>> to
>>>>>> binary (which would be odd, CC is designed for text, not binary).
>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#cc-sa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd vote we wait for the legal resolution, or find a suitable
>>>>> replacement,
>>>>>> in order to remain in NIST compliance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:55 AM, David Neuman <
>>>> david.neuma...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>> I don't know if you have been following the release 2.1 thread on the
>>>>>> incubator list [1] , but we have been given a -1 vote by the IPMC for
>>>>>> having a file in our release [2] that has an incompatible license.
>>>> There
>>>>>> is some debate about the license, and we have reached out to Legal for
>>>>> more
>>>>>> information [3] (thanks Eric!), but we haven't heard back from legal
>>>> yet.
>>>>>> Instead of waiting for legal to get back to us, I would like to propose
>>>>>> that we instead remove this file from our release.  The file in
>>>> question
>>>>> is
>>>>>> just a list of weak passwords and I feel like we can easily include a
>>>>> blank
>>>>>> file, or a file with a couple passwords that we generate, and
>>>> individual
>>>>>> installs of Traffic Control can replace this file as they see fit.
>>>> This
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> remove issue of having an incompatible license in our release and
>>>> should
>>>>>> also not require us to do a code change.  The downside of removing this
>>>>>> file is that we will need to create another 2.1 release candidate and
>>>> go
>>>>>> through the vote process again.  I would really like to see us get 2.1
>>>>>> released before the end of the year, and at this point our chances are
>>>>>> looking pretty slim.  So, does anyone object to removing this file from
>>>>> our
>>>>>> release?  If not, I will put an issue into github, remove the file, and
>>>>>> back port the change so that we can get another 2.1 release candidate
>>>>> out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c211f049e3d68af90196c30f6b6d31
>>>>>> a67b3072029dea1efe7d35c9dc@%3Cdev.trafficcontrol.apache.org%3E
>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>> apache-trafficcontrol-2.1.0-incubating/traffic_ops/app/
>>>>>> conf/invalid_passwords.txt
>>>>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-356
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>

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