Hi there, 
The cwiki link about document submission is horrible. It doesn't show people 
how to put their 1st article online.  I'm sure there is a button hidden 
somewhere for doc contributors to upload their article, or to create 
directories, but I just can't find it.

Here is what we suggest how the Chinese translations could be submitted , just 
to start discussion:
Step 1: Shall we set up a new button/tab "中文“(Chinese) on document page, 
http://trafodion.apache.org/documentation.html, on the blue bar, behind "1.3.0 
Release";
Please find the "中文" in the enclosed screenshot ("Trafodion Chinese tab.jpg");

Step 2:
We could give a couple of Chinese contributors write privileges, starting with 
translations.  Now We have a Chinese wechat group on Trafodion, fellow Chinese 
contributors, please send an email to this list or to [email protected] to 
join the wechat group if you like. 

Step 3:
Upload the translation.  Where is the button? is there an interface like in the 
attachment "submission page" ?  No, I'm not suggestion submitting to cwiki, but 
just the nice friendly interface to upload like that. 

To start with, all submissions in Chinese are translations from "Latest" tab 
only.  The order will be exactly the same. 

Best, 
Felix


-----Original Message-----
From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 3:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Chinese Contributor Access

Hi,

Start here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Modify+Documentation

Gunnar

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Liu, Yu (Yu) <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> Thanks for your suggestion!
> We will find a way which serves best.
>
> Hi Dave & Gunnar,
> Currently we have some Chinese guides.
> How can we upload/put these files to Apache Trafodion website?
>
> Many thanks!
> Liu Yu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Owhadi [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:41 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: add a roadmap page in Trafodion's project page
>
> +1 on this,
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liu, Ming (Ming) [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: add a roadmap page in Trafodion's project page
>
> Hi, all,
>
> I suggest that Trafodion team should add a 'roadmap' page in the 
> project's front web page, so users will be clear what to expect in the future.
> It will help decision making in some cases.
>
> Thanks,
> Ming
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jin, Jian (Seth) [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 12:26 PM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Chinese Contributor Access
>
> This would be very user friendly.
>
> Br,
>
> Seth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 2016年7月13日 23:20
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Chinese Contributor Access
>
> Hi,
>
> The two don't conflict.
>
> The source for documents can be in directories that mirror the English 
> ones.
> Which is a good idea because it will be easier to keep them in synch.
>
> Links on the web pages and in documents on the other hand can go 
> transparently across Chinese directories. So to an end-user, it is 
> just as you describe: Click on the Chinese link on the main web page, 
> then travel to a collection of Chinese pages. Similarly for the documents.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liu, Yu (Yu) [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:01 AM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Chinese Contributor Access
>
> Hi Gunnar,
>
> Appreciate you taking time to provide your details! I will do more 
> research on them.
>
> One question: Why add Chinese directory that corresponds with the 
> English version rather than create a specific section/place?
>
> In the latter situation, Chinese (large number of users) could locate 
> their desired information with fastest and fewest clicks, the user 
> experience & user usability will be improved significantly, 
> consequently it will contribute to the promotion of Apache Trafodion website 
> as well.
>
> Thanks!
> Liu Yu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 11:26 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Dave Birdsall <[email protected]>; Jin, Jian (Seth) < 
> [email protected]>; Yang, Yang (Felix) <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Chinese Contributor Access
>
> Hi,
>
> It's definitely a good idea to add a set of Chinese-language pages and 
> user guides. Most of the documentation and web pages are located under 
> the docs/ directory. I propose that we keep this simple: simply add a 
> [document]_cn directory that corresponds with the English version. For 
> example, docs/sql_reference and docs/sql_reference_cn. The documents 
> are written in asciidoctor so I think we'll be OK there. The current 
> PDF tool will not do good so we'll probably need to change to 
> asciidoctor-fopub. See 
> http://programfan.github.io/contents/2015/04/20/convert-chinese-asciid
> oc-to-pdf/
>
> The website uses markdown. From what I can see, this should work. 
> There's even a guide: http://markdown.tw/ Here, I propose that the 
> differnet web pages are complimented with a _cn counterpart. See 
> src/site/markdown/. We may have to do some css work, which I view as a 
> good thing since the current css definitions are really hacks.
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Liu, Yu (Yu) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dava,
> > Thanks for your details!
> > We plan to upload Chinese reference manuals/website 
> > pages/guides/instructions/blogs/articles/… periodically.
> > We will follow the instructions on the website to register.
> >
> > Hi all,
> > One more question:
> > China has been growing dramatically and enjoy tremendous potential, 
> > in order to benefit more people and grow more audience, and given 
> > that a wealth of Chinese documentation will be coming, thus could 
> > Apache Trafodion create a specific section/tab for Chinese files?
> >
> > Liu Yu
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 12:18 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: Jin, Jian (Seth) <[email protected]>; Yang, Yang (Felix) < 
> > [email protected]>
> > Subject: RE: Chinese Contributor Access
> >
> > Hi Liu Yu,
> >
> >
> >
> > What sort of documentation do you wish to contribute? Wiki pages? 
> > Web site pages? Chinese versions of the reference manuals?
> >
> >
> >
> > An ICLA is a good idea for all of these. A JIRA ID is also a good 
> > idea for all of these; it is a good mechanism for tracking work.
> >
> >
> >
> > A Git ID is needed if you are doing web site pages or Chinese 
> > versions of the reference manuals, since the source for both of 
> > these is stored in Github.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Liu, Yu (Yu) [mailto:[email protected]]
> > *Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2016 11:06 PM
> > *To:* [email protected]
> > *Cc:* Jin, Jian (Seth) <[email protected]>; Yang, Yang (Felix) < 
> > [email protected]>
> > *Subject:* Chinese Contributor Access
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Apache Trafodion,
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely appreciate your great efforts for Apache Trafodion Community.
> >
> >
> >
> > I’m Liu Yu who is a technical writer from Esgyn in China (Shanghai), 
> > along with some Chinese volunteers who are eager to get more 
> > involved and want to be contributors to Apache Trafodion Community.
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.    How can we publish Chinese documentations?
> >
> >
> >
> > 2.    Should we register as indicated below (screen short from website)
> > *individually*? ICLA + Git  ID + Jira ID?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Many thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Liu Yu
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



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Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

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