I believe we are ready to go to TLP in Trafodion. Speaking as the first
release manager for Trafodion, we have come a long way since the first release.
We have incorporated many new processes in Trafodion to meet Apache standards
with licensing, copyrights, and release management. We have an active team in
place and it is growing. It is exciting to be part of such a great product.
Roberta
-----Original Message-----
From: Qifan Chen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 8:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation
We can offer some good aspects of diversity with Trafodion as follows. This
happens slowly but surely since the start of the incubation of Trafodion.
1. More developers work on Trafodion than before, such as improving the SQL
engine, or writing Trafodion UDFs to extend Trafodion functionalities. This is
particularly true in both US and China;
2. More companies/communities have convinced that Trafodion can help meet
their Big Data needs and start various types of projects with it;
3. Trafodion has been enhanced with more features and can be tightly
integrated with many other Hadoop projects (such as Kafka, as described here
https://esgyn.com/trafodion-kafka-trafka/).
I think we are ready for graduation.
Regards,
--Qifan
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From: Eric Owhadi <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 8:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation
Hi All,
I also think that we are ready for graduation.
On the diversity front I am wondering about the following: The objective of
diversity is to make sure the product will not vanish, should the main company
supporting it defaults.
However, I am thinking that the customer base of that company, using Trafodion,
or its derivative implementation could be a gage of guaranteed sustainability:
One of the key selling point of Trafodion derivative product, is that it comes
from open source. So that in case of defaulting company, customers have a
backup plan to just take over matter in their own hands (they would most likely
hire Trafodion engineers to sustain their production DB).
So in a nutshell, I believe we could consider how many companies have disclosed
running Trafodion or its derivative in production, and factor this in as a gage
of sustainability along with diversity.
I believe that adding this will be sufficient to convince we are ready for
graduation,
Best regards,
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: Zhang, Yi (Eason) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 8:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation
I'm not in the contributor list, someone can add me in?
Thanks,
Eason
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 05:24
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation
Hi,
I'll plan on spending some time this week bringing [1] up-to-date. I know of a
few changes off the top of my head. Most of it is accurate though.
Diversity has always been the issue with this particular podling. Some research
needs to be done to freshly assess where we are on this.
Beyond that issue though I personally feel we are ready for graduation.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Pierre Smits [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 7:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation
Hi all,
Last time we checked whether we were ready to graduate was in July/August 2016.
Since we started incubation we have released a number of times succesfully (so
we can say that we have that under our belt).
Our community shows a healthy interaction on our mailing list(s) and through
github (pull requests -947 closes, forks - 85, stars - 91, watch - 25, all per
today) and several presentations have been made (ApacheCon/Apache BigData/other
events).
All in all, our reports (through the Incubator reports) to the board show a
podling, where its contributors act in accordance with the ASF principles and
is moving forward in a steady pace.
And our contributors are working towards our next release..
So, I believe it is time that we start working towards graduation. One action
we should all work at is looking at [1] and update our details (e.g.
affiliation, e-mail address) to reflect a current situation.
A major aspect regarding graduation is diversity. This is not as much a point
with respect to committer. But it might be perceived (by Incubator voters -
with binding vote - as an issue when it comes down to the proposition of the
intended PMC (after graduation).
- If we feel that diversity (as it is now in the PPMC, or as it will be
in the future PMC) will be an issue, we should invite more from a different
flock (e.g. consider report reviewers/others).
- If we feel that we can successfully address IPMC concerns we, of
course, have nothing to worry about.
To come to an end of this posting:
please share your thoughts on whether we are ready to graduate
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
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