I found I'm not able to start a vote now, because I don't clearly
understand how to create a presentation using AsciiDoc. I will research it
and then will be able to start it.

пт, 1 мар. 2019 г. в 09:36, Dmitriy Pavlov <[email protected]>:

> Yes I personally agree to try asciidoc, but I think we should create 2
> separated threads for voting to be visible by all members. I could start
> that threads.
>
> пт, 1 мар. 2019 г., 0:08 Christofer Dutz <[email protected]>:
>
>> Hi Lars,
>>
>> I would be more than happy to setup everything ...
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Am 28.02.19, 19:20 schrieb "Lars Francke" <[email protected]>:
>>
>>     I've looked at the plc4x website and think it looks good. The source
>> seems
>>     to be relatively painless as well and I like Asciidoc, so it works in
>> my
>>     book.
>>
>>     Does any of you have any opinions on a technology/framework? (I don't
>>     really)
>>
>>     If not I suggest that we do a quick vote on it.
>>     Christofer would you be interested in helping set that up should we
>> go that
>>     route?
>>
>>     On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 3:32 AM Sönke Liebau
>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     > I think a separate repo for the website makes sense, to keep things
>> a
>>     > little separated. It depends on what route we choose regarding
>> repos, but
>>     > my preference would be to keep the main "content" repo free of any
>> admin
>>     > (for lack of a better word) stuff.
>>     > Regarding a staging repo, for our website we currently forego this
>> step
>>     > completely, our build job takes the sources (we use Lektor) and
>> compiles
>>     > them straight to the directory the page is served from.
>>     > While saving an extra repo this also means that we lack proper
>> versioning,
>>     > as any changes to the build job might of course also affect
>> rebuilds of
>>     > older versions of the page.
>>     >
>>     > I don't have any real preference here tbh, I think we should mostly
>> be
>>     > looking to reuse as much as possible.
>>     >
>>     > Best regards,
>>     > Sönke
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > [1] https://www.getlektor.com
>>     >
>>     > Am Sa., 23. Feb. 2019, 21:01 hat Furkan KAMACI <
>> [email protected]>
>>     > geschrieben:
>>     >
>>     > > Hi,
>>     > >
>>     > > The website can be a separate repo (
>>     > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-website), a different
>> branch
>>     > or
>>     > > resides in the original repo (
>>     > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid/tree/master/docs).
>>     > >
>>     > > I think that it depends on which repositories we will have on
>> Github. As
>>     > > far as I see, a separate repo for such purpose could be better.
>>     > Generating
>>     > > a website from AsciiDoc
>>     > > could be nice i.e. https://plc4x.apache.org or
>>     > > https://cloudstack.apache.org
>>     > >
>>     > > On the other hand, generating a website from mkdocs via gh-pages (
>>     > >
>> https://www.mkdocs.org/user-guide/deploying-your-docs/#github-pages) can
>>     > > be
>>     > > another option if possible.
>>     > >
>>     > > Kind Regards,
>>     > > Furkan KAMACI
>>     > >
>>     > >
>>     > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 7:17 PM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>     > >
>>     > > > You can do it all in our repo: keep source for the site on
>> `master`
>>     > > branch
>>     > > > and the rendered site on `asf-site`, much like GitHub does with
>>     > > `gh-pages`.
>>     > > > Beam does this. Slightly less to administer. But on the other
>> hand, if
>>     > > you
>>     > > > *want* to set up permissions differently (like "only a bot can
>> push"),
>>     > or
>>     > > > just want to stay flexible, then having a separate technical
>> repo is
>>     > > likely
>>     > > > better.
>>     > > >
>>     > > > Kenn
>>     > > >
>>     > > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:17 AM Christofer Dutz <
>>     > > [email protected]
>>     > > > >
>>     > > > wrote:
>>     > > >
>>     > > > > One thing with "one repo" and the reason we stage the website
>> in a
>>     > > > > separate one.
>>     > > > > The commit history is polluted with all the website-staging
>>     > > auto-emails.
>>     > > > >
>>     > > > > So I would suggest a "technical repo" where the site is
>> staged for
>>     > > pickup
>>     > > > > by git-pub-sub.
>>     > > > >
>>     > > > > Chris
>>     > > > >
>>     > > > > Am 23.02.19, 11:07 schrieb "Lars Francke" <
>> [email protected]>:
>>     > > > >
>>     > > > >     Fabulous! I think that looks good, I like Asciidoc, I
>> understand
>>     > > > Maven
>>     > > > > so
>>     > > > >     to me that sounds good. Thank you. Let's see what others
>> have to
>>     > > say.
>>     > > > >
>>     > > > >     All in one repo as Kenneth mentioned also sounds good to
>> me.
>>     > > > >
>>     > > > >     That reminds me: A logo would be good. The ASF now has a
>> Central
>>     > > > > Service
>>     > > > >     that we could ask for a Logo design.
>>     > > > >
>>     > > > >     On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:35 AM Christofer Dutz <
>>     > > > > [email protected]>
>>     > > > >     wrote:
>>     > > > >
>>     > > > >     > Hi,
>>     > > > >     >
>>     > > > >     > well I could help with this.
>>     > > > >     > I guess the PLC4X podling is the cleanest of my
>> examples for a
>>     > > > setup
>>     > > > > in
>>     > > > >     > which the website is generated from asciidoc as part of
>> the
>>     > maven
>>     > > > > build
>>     > > > >     > And it is also automatically staged and published by
>>     > git-pub-sub.
>>     > > > >     > IANAWD (I am not a web designer), and the content
>> definitely
>>     > > needs
>>     > > > an
>>     > > > >     > update, but I'm quite happy with the results.
>>     > > > >     >
>>     > > > >     > https://plc4x.apache.org
>>     > > > >     >
>>     > > > >     > Chris
>>     > > > >     >
>>     > > > >     > Am 23.02.19, 01:06 schrieb "Kenneth Knowles" <
>> [email protected]
>>     > >:
>>     > > > >     >
>>     > > > >     >     It can all be in one repo. Beam recently moved the
>> site
>>     > from
>>     > > > the
>>     > > > >     >     apache/beam-site repo to a directory in the main
>>     > apache/beam
>>     > > > > repo. It
>>     > > > >     > is
>>     > > > >     >     nice to not have multiple places you have to go
>> looking for
>>     > > > > bits. And
>>     > > > >     > it is
>>     > > > >     >     published on every commit using gitpubsub. I didn't
>> set
>>     > that
>>     > > > up,
>>     > > > > but I
>>     > > > >     > can
>>     > > > >     >     ask around. We've had a pretty good time with Jekyll
>>     > though I
>>     > > > > think
>>     > > > >     > mostly
>>     > > > >     >     we don't change it since it is working. I think
>> various
>>     > > flavors
>>     > > > > of
>>     > > > >     > markdown
>>     > > > >     >     have the most widespread support.
>>     > > > >     >
>>     > > > >     >     Kenn
>>     > > > >     >
>>     > > > >     >     On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 2:49 PM Lars Francke <
>>     > > > > [email protected]>
>>     > > > >     > wrote:
>>     > > > >     >
>>     > > > >     >     > We need a website :)
>>     > > > >     >     >
>>     > > > >     >     > I have almost no skills in any kind of frontend
>> work.
>>     > > > CSS/HTML
>>     > > > > etc.
>>     > > > >     > That
>>     > > > >     >     > means I also don't have any strong opinions on
>> this but I
>>     > > > know
>>     > > > > that
>>     > > > >     > some of
>>     > > > >     >     > you (Christofer etc.) have already dealt with
>> this in
>>     > other
>>     > > > > projects.
>>     > > > >     >     >
>>     > > > >     >     > I'm happy to help with content when the basics are
>>     > set-up.
>>     > > > >     >     >
>>     > > > >     >     > The only opinion I do have is that it'd be good
>> to have
>>     > the
>>     > > > > content
>>     > > > >     > in a
>>     > > > >     >     > format like Asciidoc - ideally in the same format
>> as
>>     > > some/all
>>     > > > > of our
>>     > > > >     > actual
>>     > > > >     >     > content.
>>     > > > >     >     >
>>     > > > >     >     > It'd be fabulous if anyone is willing to take
>> this up?
>>     > > > >     >     >
>>     > > > >     >     > I know that Infra has a "gitpubsub" thing which
>> allows us
>>     > > to
>>     > > > >     > automatically
>>     > > > >     >     > build and deploy a site from git somehow. I've
>> never used
>>     > > it
>>     > > > > and
>>     > > > >     > there are
>>     > > > >     >     > lots of things I don't know. One of them being
>> whether it
>>     > > can
>>     > > > > all be
>>     > > > >     > one
>>     > > > >     >     > repository or whether we need a training-site
>> repo.
>>     > > > >     >     >
>>     > > > >     >     > <https://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html>
>>     > > > >     >     > <https://www.apache.org/dev/gitpubsub.html>
>>     > > > >     >     >
>>     > > > >     >
>>     > > > >     >
>>     > > > >     >
>>     > > > >
>>     > > > >
>>     > > > >
>>     > > >
>>     > >
>>     >
>>
>>
>>

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