Hi Lars, Certainly much to be done...
Among other things, I have imagined preparing/producing content and getting it online somewhere people already are -- like Coursera, Udacity, Edx. Fwiw: Linux Foundation has relationships with Coursera and EdX. https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-release/2018/12/the-linux-foundation-and-coursera-launch-new-specialization-for-open-source-linux-and-git/ It seems common things could be compiled to save many from recreating for different purposes. We're looking at getting such a session on git/jira/etc into our forthcoming Beam Summit -- will hope when we get content together that it can be donated to apache training. There could be content like the above Coursera specialization - that are generic and applicable to many Apache projects - as well as aid and structure for usability of specific projects (that becomes outdated sooner). Starting with jira, git, mailing lists, understanding types of voting, building consensus, etc. I believe such courses can be freely available through such platforms, but don't know the terms/agreements with the platforms, specifically. This was one avenue I imagined could be fruitful. Naturally could be done in less interactive ways, or where things are self-hosted, but also think about the reach -- people savvy enough to scour internet looking for apache training documents, might readily find those resources, going to where more people are and helping hold their hand might help cast an even wider net. Best, Austin On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 9:14 AM Lars Francke <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > understood. You fit right in here then. We're all still trying to find our > way as you've already noticed ;-) > > On the Apache Way itself we have lots of contents. I haven't counted but > I've been approached off-list and we together on-list by at least four or > five different companies with Apache Way presentations. I would say it's > not worth it to start new content in this specific area. If you are however > interested in driving its incorporation into this project that'd be > fabulous. I imagine (without having seen all of them) there's lots of > overlap and someone should go through it and merge it together into one > document. > > There are other things though: How do I use Git & Jira etc., how to behave > on mailing lists (i.e. Netiquette), a "Code of Conduct" presentation and > lots more. > > So: Resounding yes to your question on whether that's aligned (in my > opinion). Anything you can come up with in that area would be helpful. > Thinking back 12 or so years when I started with Apache and Open Source > software in general I would have loved a more guiding hand. > > Cheers, > Lars > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 6:03 PM Austin Bennett <[email protected] > > > wrote: > > > Hi Lars, > > > > Was not a concrete question, and not totally worked out in my head. > > Perhaps several things. Including: does good content exist? What would > > make good content (esp. if it doesn't)? I'm happy to not reinvent the > > wheel (nor have I been doing thing with Apache for long, so still > figuring > > much out), and am also figuring out the best ways for me to contribute. > > > > In general, it is helpful to even hear this is (at least somewhat) in > > alignment, as it looks like reaching and training these students could > make > > a world of difference to them. > > > > Cheers, > > Austin > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 8:58 AM Lars Francke <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Austin and welcome to the group! > > > > > > I'm not 100% sure if I get what you are actually asking, though. Could > > you > > > elaborate? > > > Do you want to know what would make good content? > > > > > > I agree with Sönke though: Non-technical stuff is very very welcome and > > > needed. This does include content on inclusion & diversity (which seems > > to > > > be abbreviated as I&D in the mailing lists sometimes). > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Lars > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:39 PM Austin Bennett < > > > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Apache Training, > > > > > > > > I am working with the administration at a local community college > > > students > > > > to learn things coding/computing. Computer Science is an 'impacted' > > > major, > > > > meaning not all students are not even able to gain access to those > > > classes, > > > > so there is motivation to figure out how to expand those capabilities > > > (and > > > > I am specifically in discussion for ways to train immigrant and ESL > > > > students). > > > > > > > > This has me exploring both what is available and what would be good > to > > > > create. Outside of the technical skills, I am imagining teaching > them > > > > about (and encourage living by) the Apache Way. It seems such > > awareness > > > > would be beneficial to people as they are learning (and anyone more > > > > generally); In addition this might serve as a pipeline for the future > > for > > > > people that would contribute positively to Apache. Furthermore, > > > elsewhere > > > > I've seen desires to continue to increase diversity around the > > > foundation, > > > > this specific use-case and population would then potentially also > > further > > > > those goals. > > > > > > > > This is a super open question, and I see this group is just > beginning. > > > > Looking forward to finding the positive ways to contribute. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Austin > > > > > > > > > >
