Hello Rich,

thanks for message.

I am happy to see this kind of demand also coming to us, here in the Apache
Training incubator project.
>From a totally different perspective compared to yours, we can see how a
new shared goal for the project emerges.

Besides having the tools for creating training materials, we now look into
*training procedures which directly support ASF projects and ASF management
activities.*

Since many of us work with software and software development on a daily
base, some non-techies with an interest
on knowledge sharing are around us. One of them already joined us last
week. Welcome to Eric!

With this in mind, I would say we are on track. Going forward, towards a
vital community for ASF Training.

My next step is summarizing all the communication of the last month and
sending out the draft of the June
Podling-Report.

Greetings from Germany.
Cheers,
Mirko


Am Fr., 30. Juni 2023 um 16:07 Uhr schrieb <[email protected]>:

> Hi, friends.
>
> At the recent board face-to-face in Berlin, one of the topics that was
> discussed is the terrible job that we do, at the ASF, on onboarding.
>
> We have the Incubator, which does a good job (most of the time)
> onboarding new projects, but any status transition (ie, contributor to
> new committer, or a new board member) we just leave people to figure it
> out on their own.
>
> Comdev is working on some of these things, here:
> https://community.apache.org/contributor-ladder but it's not enough. In
> particular, what I would like to see is actual training (formal or
> self-paced) for each of the following:
>
> * You've just graduated to a TLP. What are the challenges you will now
> face.
> * New committer onboarding
> * New PMC member onboarding
> * New PMC Chair onboarding
> * New board member onboarding
>
> I would also like, eventually, to work with each officer (like, say, VP
> Conferences) to write hand-over docs, in the form of training materials
> and related documentation, so that when a new officer enters the
> they are not left to figure out everything on their own.
>
> So, what does that have to do with the Training project? Well, I'd like
> to not have to invent format and process all over again. I'd like to
> ride on your coat-tails if possible.
>
> Anyways, I saw that you are discussing possible retirement, and,
> selfishly, that would be unfortunate, since I don't want to do any of
> that work myself - I'm just a writer, not a programmer.
>
> So, while I'm just one person, and wouldn't want to interfere with your
> decisions about the future of your project, I have a personal stake in
> seeing it continue, if possible, just for my own needs.
>
>

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