Hi,

(1) as far as I can see, the archetype trunk (turbine-webapp-4.0) points 
to Version 4.0-M2. 

Should we release it now or wait for Turbine 4.0 Final Release? It seems 
quite ready to be used. Nonetheless some testing and validating should be 
done. 

If we proceed to 4.0-SNAPSHOT changing e.g. of turbine-pipeline.xml would 
be required, which is not (yet) backward-compatible. 


(2) When looking a little deeper into how actually things are to be 
implemented, some questions arise, e.g. how are the security services 
considered to be used? For example there exists a class in Turbine called 
        org.apache.turbine.services.security.DefaultSecurityService 
and another class in Fulcrum Security 
        org.apache.fulcrum.security.BaseSecurityService
and furthermore a (deprecated?) Turbine Adapters in Fulcrum Security
        org.apache.fulcrum.security.adapter.turbine.SecurityServiceAdapter 


Which of them is needed in which case (or could be substituted), which are 
deprecated? 

Migrating to Turbine M2 (with Torque OM), probably many things just 
continue to work, but what exactly should be dome could be made more 
apparent. Especially getting an instance of and saving a user I see more 
than one way to do it (I will document this somewhere). 

May be the easiest to answer is, when starting a brand-new Turbine project 
using Torque what is the way to go. The new Fulcrum Security Torque 
persistence managers seem to be the candidate in the first place or not?

So, I think some more explanation is needed at some place ..


Best regards, Georg

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