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Could you post the full info on how to subscribe to the OpenOffice
accessibility list?
Thanks.
Kestrell
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 2:12
AM
Subject: Re: [ui-dev] JAWS 7.0 and
OpenOffice 2.0
Everett,
thanks for your statement about self voicing
apps, absolutely true.
To your problem: We will do some more
investigations.
Malte.
PS: Did you subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
yet?
Everett Zufelt wrote:
> On the surface putting a reader
in the program seems like a god idea.
> are some reasons that it may
not work well:
>
> a) Assistive Technology (AT) companies
have spent much time and money
> making their products work, for the
most part, well. A partial
> re-invention of the wheel would be
required.
> b) Why reinvent a wheel if there already is one.
> c)
Most visually impaired and blind users who currently own
>
screen-readers are comfortable with how they work and would have to
>
learn the nuances of a new system (keystrokes etc.).
> d) Why bother
software developers who are trying to make a good product
> with having
to incorporate scren-reading abilities?
>
> I have also
heard that MS is incorporating voce to text and text to
> speach in
Vista. No telling, however, how well they will work.
>
> Everett
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message
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> *From:* bogus_01 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:54 AM
>
*Subject:* Re: [ui-dev] JAWS 7.0 and OpenOffice 2.0
>
> Why not put a reader in the program? It
would help solve the
> accessiblility issue and
open the program up to people who are
> visually
impaired and solve the problem.
>
> I've heard rumors that MicroSoft is
considering that in their Vista.
>
> Stu
>
> ----- Original
Message -----
> *From:*
Everett Zufelt <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2006 7:18
AM
> *Subject:* [ui-dev]
JAWS 7.0 and OpenOffice 2.0
>
> Good
morning,
>
> I have posted this
bug with OpenOffice's accessibility in
the
> past and was
refered (as a suggestion) to Freedom
Scientific,
> the
developer of the JAWS screen reader. I spoke with
them,
> they were of
little help, referring me to Sun. Since then
I
> have been doing some
thinking and believe that what I am
going
> to describe
below is not a JAWS problem. I do not know if
the
> problem lies in
the OpenOffice code, or in the
JAVA
> Accessibility
API.
>
> When I have a
document open in OpenOffice Writer, and I use
the
> u/d arrow keys to
move from line to line, lines after a
hard
> return are only
spoke if visited a second time. This is
a
> little hard to
explain, perhaps an
example
>
>
Example:
> Dear
sir,
>
> This is my letter to
you as an example, Hopefully this line
is
> long enough to wrap
to the next line so that it works as
an
> example. If
not, hopefully everyone can use
their
>
imaginiation.
Goodbye.
>
>
Sincerely,
>
xxx
>
> In the above example,
if I were starting at the top of
the
> document "Dear"
and using the down arrow to read by line,
the
> first line of the
message body "This my letter..." would only
be
> read if I went down
to the second line in the paragraph and
then
> pressed the up
arrow to go back to the first line. This is
a
> little annoying but
I can work around it with paragraphs.
> However, the same
would hold true for the
"Sincerely"
>
line. However, in this case, there is not second line in
the
> paragraph to move
back up from, therefor, JAWS will not read
the
> text at all.
That is, if a paragraph of text fits nicely
onto
> one line I can
not read it once it is written. What I
hear
> instead of the
text I am expecting is "blank". Pretty
much
> making OpenOffice
Writer useless to a blind user of
JAWS.
>
> Now, like I said, I
am not sure where the problem lies,
but
> expect it is
somewhere in the OpenOffice code or the
Java
> Accessibility
API, though, I do not rule out
Freedom
>
Scientific. This is a pretty major issue, as there is really
no
> reason to
incorporate the JAVA access technology if if
the
> application
remains, for all intents and purposes,
unusable.
>
> I don't mean to
complain about the product, only to
emphasize
> what really
needs to be addressed to make it truely
accessible.
>
> Thank you for your
continued assistance,
>
Everett
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