Thanks Adrian, I will also list to jclouds-dev mailing list. Regading the probing, I actually saw a video on youtube where you explain also how difficult is to implement auto-discovery.
Regarding the proposal, Anderi, maybe can you replay? attaching a copy of the question. Proposal- Would you like me to share my proposal with you guys before > submitting? What kind of inrormation you expect besides of: deliverable, > Timeline other commitments. What is the level of details the design should > have? On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Adrian Cole <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi, Doron, > > Cross-posting and inline. > > On Mar 25, 2012 7:22 AM, "Doron Tsur" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I've researching BlobStore API, went over the guide and some examples. I > > would send send some of this to jcloud user-list but there is a > membership > > pending issue. > I approved your membership, noting from sound of your note, you likely > want jclouds-dev > > > > > Questions. > > > > Limitation - I wonder if there is a way to probe the limitation. > Sometimes > > users might want to perform operation which are restricted like upload to > > Azure a file which is more than 64MB. Is there away to prob the > limitation > There's currently a partially implemented Capabilities system on > BlobStore. This was done years ago, and we can discuss why it didn't > work. Current approach is to expose anything not LCD using Optional<X> > interface, which can be derived at runtime or from static metadata about a > service. This is first implemented in our hpcloud-objectstore where a non > OpenStack Swift entension is present. There's more work to be done on this > including discovery of non-standard features. > > > in the BlobStore and make sure that an operation is possible. Other > example > > is trying to redirect a blob from one blobstore to another. > Objects should or do have reference to their geographic location (ex. > Iso3166) and also the provider they are in. There is currently no copyBlob > op, but you could imagine copying using server apis on those who support > it, or employing a strategy for intercloud copies. > > > > > Development - How do you guys develop and test your code when you need a > > cloud? I will probably revamp my old laptop to run the necessary > platform, > > it would be a pain if at all possible (machine issues). Best practice > here? > Transient and filesystem providers. You can also use devstack.org to > install openstack swift on your laptop in a vm, or even implement a > blobstore binding for something more lightweight and already in whirr. > > > > > IRC: When is jclouds, Whirr most active in the IRC?. I'm from GMT+2. > > > Irc and jclouds-dev google groups are pretty active in your timezone > towards the end of the day. We have equal activity in europe and PST > > > Proposal- Would you like me to share my proposal with you guys before > > submitting? What kind of inrormation you expect besides of: deliverable, > > Timeline other commitments. What is the level of details the design > should > > have? > I'll have to punt this Q to someone more familiar with the process. > > > > > Sorry for bombarding with questions but Whirr just became my top choice > for > > GSoC project and I want to get things rolling. > > Rock on > > > > > Good Day, > > qballer > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Adrian Cole <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, Doran > > > > > > A blob is indeed a blob :) > > > > > > I would start by going to github jclouds-examples and making a few > blobs of > > > your own. > > > > > > You can play with these and also look at jclouds.org/documentationwhere > > > there's a BlobStore guide, to help you understand what it is like, > being a > > > blob. > > > > > > Finally, you can hop on irc freenode #jclouds to meet others coping > with > > > life in a blobby world. > > > > > > -A > > > On Mar 21, 2012 5:30 PM, "Doron Tsur" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Setting up a simple Whirr cluster would be my next step. I'm trying > to > > > get > > > > a good feel of the project so I've been going over some > documentation. I > > > > don't come with a lot of background in cloud computing so I'm > figuring it > > > > out as I go. This step also requires me to setup an Ubuntu Server > 10.04, > > > I > > > > will do that and run Whirr on it. > > > > > > > > It took me a while to understand that a blob is just that, a blob. > I'm > > > > assuming that the entire Blob Store concept was created in order to > > > > transfer and store big binary files efficiently. I'm not sure how > this is > > > > achieved yet but a client doesn't need to understand the server just > how > > > to > > > > interface with it. > > > > > > > > Things I want to do: > > > > > > > > 1. Support create, delete and setMetaData (I understand Blobs have > that, > > > > right?) in the basics. > > > > > > > > 2. Support functions with out occupying the Whirr terminal. meaning > that > > > as > > > > soon as a request is made, the CLI can be free to do other things > while > > > the > > > > job is done in the background. I'm guessing that create can be time > > > > consuming. As soon as the function is done it should print the > > > result/stats > > > > to the screen. blocking the CLI if required should be easy if needed. > > > > > > > > 3. It came to mind that on a cloud you can have several Blob Stores > and > > > if > > > > Blobs could bounce from one to another it could be useful. If this is > > > > possible, Blob Store wise, I would like to support move and copy > between > > > > blobs. This will less constrain the users bandwidth and could be > useful > > > for > > > > scripting on top of this client . > > > > > > > > It would be great if you could share any quality links regarding > Whirr, > > > > Jclouds, cloud computing and interfacing with a BlobStores. Google > is my > > > > friend but all of you have been researching the topic for some time > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Andrei Savu <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Good to hear that you find the project interesting. > > > > > > > > > > #286 sounds like a great fit for you. Have you tried to setup a > simple > > > > > cluster with Whirr? How do you think the blob store client should > look > > > > > like? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > -- Andrei Savu / andreisavu.ro > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Doron Tsur <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > HI all, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the second ASF project that caught my eye. I guess Apache > > > must > > > > be > > > > > > doing something right. I looked in to some JIRA issues which are > > > > mentored > > > > > > candidate and this interested me > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-286 > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been taking interest in several open source project, after > > > > speaking > > > > > > with several committers on a bunch of projects I figured out the > > > style > > > > of > > > > > > project I would like to do. I would like to own one feature, it > > > doesn't > > > > > > really matter which, though there some which are more appealing > than > > > > > > others. This would be my main project, during that time I would > also > > > > like > > > > > > to perform general purpose bug fixing. This will allow me to > produce > > > > two > > > > > > forms of deliverable code. The bug fixes should be on a weekly or > > > > > bi-weekly > > > > > > basis depending on main projects constrains and other factors. I > will > > > > > work > > > > > > out the details with the mentor. I wonder if this approach sounds > > > > > > reasonable for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm guessing some of you or going to be mentors in the upcoming > GSoC, > > > > do > > > > > > you have a specific notion in mind? > > > > > > What kind of details would you like to see in the application? > > > > > > Any Whirr specific documents you would like me to go in to while > > > > writing > > > > > up > > > > > > a proposal? > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, feel free to share your thoughts! > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Day, > > > > > > qballer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "jclouds" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/jclouds?hl=en. >
