non binding
1) -1
2) +1
3) +0

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Peter Ertl-3 [via Apache Wicket] <
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> I fully agree with Martijn!
>
> My biggest concern is to keep our existing user base happy and
> productive...
>
> So...
>
> 1)  -1  this will make happy a few developers and upset many. we are on a
> _release candidate_ and should concentrate on eliminating bugs. There's
> always a next version to add features.
> 2) +1 as this should not hurt much
> 3) +0
>
> Cheers
> Peter
>
> Am 18.08.2011 um 09:38 schrieb Johan Compagner:
>
> > For us personally i don't care, <1> could be done, we are not on 1.5
> > yet and if we do the package rename is easy to fix.
> >
> > But i agree with the rest that this is to big to do in such a late
> > stage, and maybe also after that stage.
> > Because for osgi the simppe fix is to make one big jar right? Thats
> > really easy...
> > I would think that solution could be for now even after 1.5 be the
> > right solution.
> >
> > johan
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 19:22, Igor Vaynberg <[hidden 
> > email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3752061&i=0>>
> wrote:
> >> a lot of energy has gone into discussing and prototyping wicket+osgi
> >> in the past few days.
> >>
> >> it seems the biggest obstacle is that there are split packages between
> >> wicket-[core,request,util] jars. usually we wouldnt fix this now
> >> because we are in RCs and it requires moving pretty much all classes,
> >> for example all classes in core/o.a.w would have to move to
> >> core/o.a.w.core, which is roughly 99% of all classes in Wicket. the
> >> fix should be relatively easy, running fix imports on the project from
> >> an IDE would fix all user-code, but like i said, i do acknowledge it
> >> is pretty damn late in the game to do such a thing.
> >>
> >> the alternative, however, seems also rather nasty. we would have to
> >> shade (merge) util and request modules under core. we would also have
> >> to maintain a custom maven plugin, that would be part of our build,
> >> that can generate osgi manifests for the shaded jar. this would also
> >> mean we would have to support the said plugin  for all possible
> >> versions of maven out there that people building wicket from source
> >> use.
> >>
> >> yet another alternative is to basically give the finger to the osgi
> >> community and do nothing. they can repackage the jar to meet their
> >> needs elsewhere, maybe in wicketstuff. i dont think this is really an
> >> option given how much of people's energy and time went into even
> >> discovering these options, but its here for completeness' sake.
> >>
> >> so here are our options:
> >>
> >> 1) fix the split package problem now with a big
> >> package-rename-refactor that will affect all existing code that
> >> depends on 1.5.
> >>
> >> 2) introduce a custom maven plugin to shade/manifest wicket-core. fix
> >> the split package problem in wicket.next.
> >>
> >> 3) leave osgi support out of 1.5
> >>
> >> vote ends saturday 8/20 at 10:30am gmt-7.
> >>
> >> -igor
> >>
>
>
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