Hi Ankit,

Answers inline below.

> On 15 Oct 2015, at 16:03, Ankit Gubrani <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Any updates?
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Ankit Gubrani <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> Here are my thoughts to your questions :
>> 
>> 1. Are you using the 1.0 release of Wookie, or a current trunk (2.0)
>> build? Did you evaluate both?
>> 
>> *Till now I have been using release 1.0 of Wookie. I had no idea about
>> 2.0, I will surely have a look at 2.0 and see the differences. *
>> *Is it possible for you to share the list of changes between Wookie 1.0
>> and 2.0, so that I don't skip any major difference between the two?*

The main changes are in the project structure, which is broken into multiple 
Maven modules. Also the persistence is handled by a service layer (memory-based 
and Redis are provided; JPA is still incomplete). Also the security is handled 
using HMAC rather than plain tokens.

>> 
>> 2. What do you see as the value proposition for Wookie from your point of
>> view?
>> 
>> *Wookie is providing a unified way of developing and providing re usable
>> small modular web applications know as Widgets that can be used in any
>> other Web Application. *
>> 
>> *And if we define internet today its content driven, creating Wookie as a
>> solution that deals with the problem of content today would surely give a
>> big push to Wookie. I don't think there is much we need to do Wookie
>> already is a way to connect 2 different system by a unified way i.e
>> widgets. Associating wookie as a solution for today's growing content need
>> would surely be a hit.*
>> 
>> 3. What are the key things you think Wookie needs to become part of the
>> solutions you deliver for your company’s customers?
>> 
>> *i) Providing a way to reuse components built in AEM (or any other CMS) in
>> some other CMS like Alfresco, Share Point or fat wire. *
>> 
>> *ii) Providing a way to host Wookie in any CMS and cache widgets. This
>> would reduce the number of HTTP requests made from any CMS or web
>> application to fetch a widget.*
>> 
>> *iii) Though I have not tried this one but I think if we could run Wookie
>> in a cluster running multiple wookie instances. If one wookie server and
>> talk to another wookie server to fetch widgets. This would create a big
>> cloud of wookie widgets. (This was asked as a doubt during O&A of our talk
>> we presented at AEMHub London)*

I think its possible; Kris worked on a widget “app store” implementation that 
could potentially orchestrate multiple Wookie instances.

>> 
>> *If we have thousands of users using a chat application having multiple
>> wookie servers would be the way to handle such requests.

I think for that scenario it may be better to hand off the management of that 
capability to a dedicated messaging infrastructure, e.g. pump.io.

When I’ve deployed a lot of those kind of widgets I’ve handed it off to a port 
I made of the Wave API to Node.js rather than the implementation built into 
Wookie: https://github.com/scottbw/wave-node

>>  *
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Scott Wilson <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ankit, and welcome!
>>> 
>>>> On 7 Oct 2015, at 08:49, Ankit Gubrani <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> We have been working on a* connector tool
>>>> <https://github.com/ankit-gubrani/AEM-WookieConnector>* which connects
>>> AEM (
>>>> *A*dobe *E*xperience *M*anager - Java based CMS) with Apache Wookie. And
>>>> our idea is to use out of the box Wookie widgets directly in AEM.
>>>> 
>>>> In the future releases of this tool we are aiming to connect with other
>>> CMS
>>>> like Drupal, Magento etc. We are focusing to introduce a Modular
>>> approach
>>>> that we follow in AEM to develop components. Looking at the current
>>> market
>>>> there are lots of big names using one or the other CMS like AEM,
>>>> SharePoint, Wordpress, Drupal etc.
>>>> 
>>>> We are willing to contribute to the current Wookie development. I think
>>>> with a market shift towards different CMS (with AEM taking significant
>>>> market share) introducing any such feature would give a push to Wookie's
>>>> popularity as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Let us know, we can discuss more and get started.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for this - I looked at your slides online. Two of our other
>>> community members, Kris and Paul, worked on a Drupal integration - you may
>>> want to take a look a that and maybe reuse it.
>>> 
>>> I’ve got lots of questions but just for starters:
>>> 
>>> 1. Are you using the 1.0 release of Wookie, or a current trunk (2.0)
>>> build? Did you evaluate both?
>>> 
>>> 2. What do you see as the value proposition for Wookie from your point of
>>> view?
>>> 
>>> 3. What are the key things you think Wookie needs to become  part of the
>>> solutions you deliver for your company’s customers?
>>> 
>>> S
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Ankit Gubrani
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Scott Wilson <
>>> [email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2015, at 10:19, Sharples, Paul <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 05/10/2015 19:11, Scott Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5 Oct 2015, at 18:11, Ross Gardler <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks Scott,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I recommend the board report for this month indicate that there is a
>>>>> discussion thread underway (this one) and that we will vote and act
>>> before
>>>>> the next reporting session.
>>>>>>> Good call.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That gives us a whole quarter to ensure this is the right thing for
>>>>> the project.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For what it is worth I’m +0 on the proposal. There are more than
>>> three
>>>>> active PMC members (from an oversight perspective), but it seems no
>>>>> development is underway as you say. If there are users out there who
>>> want
>>>>> to keep the project alive now is the time to step up.
>>>>>>> I’ve been contacting developers who’ve been mentioning the project in
>>>>> recent events - not many, but there are a few, and it would be good to
>>> give
>>>>> them an opportunity to get involved. I’m happy to mentor anyone who
>>> wants
>>>>> to take an active role in steering the project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm guessing that Scotts Idea to try to get new engagement into the
>>>>> project is a good one, hopefully we can find some developers before we
>>> to
>>>>> decide to move wookie into the attic or not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ankit and Rima should have just joined us on the list - maybe they can
>>>>> introduce themselves and say how they would see Wookie developing..?
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ross
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Scott Wilson [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 10:00 AM
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Subject: Move Wookie to the Attic?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In our recent reports to the ASF Board we’ve raised the possibility
>>> of
>>>>> Wookie moving to the Attic[1], given we haven’t been able to grow our
>>>>> community over the past two years.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think now is as good a time as any to make that decision, and so
>>> I’m
>>>>> proposing we recommend that the Board moves Wookie to the Attic in our
>>>>> report this month.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When a project moves to the Attic it means it is no longer being
>>>>> actively developed at ASF; however the code remains available for
>>> anyone
>>>>> using it, and if anyone wishes to take the code and make use of it
>>> outside
>>>>> of ASF (e.g. creating a fork) they are very welcome to do so.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> However, there will be no further official ASF releases unless the
>>>>> project is “rebooted” by putting it back into the Incubator to build a
>>> new
>>>>> community around it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There is no urgency in this as we still have enough PMC members to
>>>>> vote on releases, and none of us are actively withdrawing, so if anyone
>>>>> does object to the idea of moving Wookie to the Attic please speak up.
>>> If
>>>>> anyone in the community wants to take the project forwards that would
>>> be
>>>>> very welcome!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> S
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [1] http://attic.apache.org/
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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