Let's work on other parts of the project, for example we can look at UI to
configure Deep learning while waiting for them to do it. However, fix takes
time, we have to write auto encoder.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Thushan Ganegedara <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I posted about poor accuracy on deeplearning4j google group and they
> replied saying they are aware of this issue (
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/deeplearning4j/gRQH8rA9SQI). They
> are currently working on it, to get the tuned examples out soon.
>
> However, from the appearance of their response, deeplearning4j has few
> bugs/issues with gradient calculation after they moved to nd4j.
>
> I can see two options right now,
>
> 1. Wait till the bugs are fixed and tuned examples are out
> 2. Write autoencoder myself, adhering to the coding style they have
> followed. So the example can be easily integrated with deeplearning4j after
> a stable version is out.
>
>
> Would highly appreciate your feedback.
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Thushan Ganegedara <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I couldn't find any reports on high accuracy on any set of data. The
>> popular datasets seem to be Iris dataset and MNIST dataset. However, their
>> example page on git hub shows several results for different techniques and
>> datasets (https://github.com/deeplearning4j/dl4j-0.0.3.3-examples). And
>> as it can be seen, the accuracies mentioned are quite low. (However, the
>> developers claim that this is because they have run the examples with less
>> number of nodes and less iterations)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Are there any other datasets where dl4j suppose to do well? As long as
>>> it does better with *some* datasets, we can go ahead with those?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Thushan Ganegedara <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, there are few use list (Git hub and google group). I will inquire
>>>> about this in user lists.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Nirmal Fernando <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Thushan for the update.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to you digging into the code, can you also inquire on the
>>>>> poor performance from the DL4J user list (if there's one exist)?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:27 AM, Thushan Ganegedara <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please find the update regarding DL4J testing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Poor Accuracy*
>>>>>> I have been testing DL4J extensively with *MNIST and Iris* datasets
>>>>>> (Small and Full). However, I was unable to get a reasonable accuracy with
>>>>>> DL4J for the aforementioned datasets. The F1-score was around 0.02, which
>>>>>> is very low.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried with different settings mainly for the following attributes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Weight initialization
>>>>>> Gradient Descent
>>>>>> Iterations
>>>>>> Type of units: Autoencoder/RBM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But none of the settings gave a reasonable accuracy. Furthermore, the
>>>>>> predicted values for the test data usually *belong to 1 or 2 classes
>>>>>> *(e.g. when trained on MNIST dataset, the program predict 0 and 1
>>>>>> only, though there are 10 possible classes)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ​Also there are many reports of *poor accuracy of DL4J.* The best
>>>>>> accuracy I could find reported was around 0.5 F1 score for MNIST, which 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> still very​ low. (e.g. MNIST can easily reach 0.9+ accuracy for even a
>>>>>> basic deep network)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm currently trying to delve in to the code for DL4J and figure out
>>>>>> how the learning is done. I'm assuming there are some faults in the
>>>>>> learning process which causes the algorithm to learn poorly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thushan Ganegedara
>>>>>> School of IT
>>>>>> University of Sydney, Australia
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>
>>>>> Associate Technical Lead - Data Technologies Team, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>> Mobile: +94715779733
>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Thushan Ganegedara
>>>> School of IT
>>>> University of Sydney, Australia
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Thushan Ganegedara
>> School of IT
>> University of Sydney, Australia
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Thushan Ganegedara
> School of IT
> University of Sydney, Australia
>



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