Hi Suho,

Installation via PIP can be done. I will add it to Project Proposal.

Regards,
Madhawa

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Sriskandarajah Suhothayan <s...@wso2.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Madhawa Vidanapathirana <
> madhawavidanapathir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Suho,
>>
>> Going ahead with the proposal, few questions crossed my mind.
>>
>>    1. You mentioned previously that WSO2 DAS should also be supported.
>>    What sort of interactions are expected with WSO2 DAS?
>>    1. Should publishing events to WSO2 DAS from Python Siddhi API
>>       supported?
>>       2. Should deploying of Siddhi Queries to WSO2 DAS through Python
>>       Siddhi API be supported?
>>       3. Any other expectations?
>>
>>
> For the integration with DAS we can use HTTP calls and deploy Siddhi
> queries and send events to that, we should also start a server from the
> python side to receive events from DAS and print them.
>
> We can work on the details of that after the proposal.
>
> One more thing to add, can we also implement Siddhi (the project you will
> be creating) to be installed via pip ?
>
> Regards
> Suho
>
> If any of above can be considered as "optional", indicate them as well.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Madhawa
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:00 PM, Sriskandarajah Suhothayan <s...@wso2.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> For the initial cut this looks good, please go ahead with the proposal.
>>> Let's check some other alternatives and start the development.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Suho
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Madhawa Vidanapathirana <
>>> madhawavidanapathir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Suho,
>>>>
>>>> You can find the python version of test case written using Pyjnius in
>>>> below link.
>>>> https://github.com/madhawav/CEP-Python-Wraps/tree/master/Pyj
>>>> nius%20Prototype%20Wrap
>>>> Instructions on building the code is also given their.
>>>>
>>>> During development, I noticed following disadvantages of Pyjnius API
>>>>
>>>>    - Not compatible with Python 3.x.
>>>>    - There are no stable releases. However, the code available in
>>>>    master branch is relatively stable.
>>>>    - Difficult to configure. It is required to develop the library
>>>>    from source. This would make it difficult to distribute an API 
>>>> developed on
>>>>    Pyjnius.
>>>>    - There are no evidence that a proper release would be done soon.
>>>>
>>>> However, Pyjnius supports callback of events from Java to Python.
>>>> Additionally, it is easier to develop using Pyjnius ones it is configured.
>>>>
>>>> So, I had a looked at some of the other options as well.
>>>>
>>>> Java Bridge
>>>>
>>>> *Advantages*
>>>>
>>>>    - Has stable releases available through Python Package Index. (pip)
>>>>
>>>> *Disadvantages*
>>>>
>>>>    - No direct call-back mechanism to receive events from Java side.
>>>>    It is possible to execute Python scripts in Java  but those scripts 
>>>> would
>>>>    not be in same context as Python Host App.
>>>>    - Comparatively harder to develop on but it is manageable.
>>>>
>>>> Py4J
>>>>
>>>> The main difference in Py4J is that it uses socket connections to
>>>> communicate with JVM instead of JNI. (secured socket connections are
>>>> possible).
>>>>
>>>> *Advantages*
>>>>
>>>>    - Stable release available through Python Package Index (pip). Easy
>>>>    to configure.
>>>>    - Can connect to an already running Java application (with Py4J)
>>>>    and communicate with it. (Thus, can be used to communicate with a 
>>>> running
>>>>    instance of WSO2 CEP)
>>>>    - Supports callback events.
>>>>    - Well maintained documentation. Active project.
>>>>
>>>> *Disadvantages*
>>>>
>>>>    - Would require a work-around to avoid clashing between socket
>>>>    connection ports when concurrent applications use the API.
>>>>
>>>> As of now, I feel Py4J is the most suitable option. However, I am yet
>>>> to look at some other options available such as JPy and JCC.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Madhawa
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 11:10 PM, Sriskandarajah Suhothayan <
>>>> s...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great, do also start working on writing the project proposal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Suho
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:58 PM, Madhawa Vidanapathirana <
>>>>> madhawavidanapathir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Suho,
>>>>>> Progress made so far is managed to write a python version of test
>>>>>> case you suggested using Pyjnius [1] [2].
>>>>>> Pyjnius is capable of handling method calls and callbacks to/from
>>>>>> JAVA via JNI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will send the code here after I properly arrange it into a
>>>>>> prototype API.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] - https://pyjnius.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html
>>>>>> [2] - https://github.com/kivy/pyjnius/blob/master/docs/source/inde
>>>>>> x.rst
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Madhawa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:11 AM, Sriskandarajah Suhothayan <
>>>>>> s...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As the first step focus on building APIs such that we can write the
>>>>>>> following test case[1] in python.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1]https://github.com/wso2/siddhi/blob/master/modules/siddhi
>>>>>>> -samples/quick-start-samples/src/main/java/org/wso2/siddhi/s
>>>>>>> ample/SimpleFilterSample.java
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Suho
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Madhawa Vidanapathirana <
>>>>>>> madhawavidanapathir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your quick reply.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since directly using Siddhi Library is the more general case, I'll
>>>>>>>> first focus on it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) I am thinking about following the same structure in JAVA API,
>>>>>>>> centered around Siddhi Manager. Any opinions on this?
>>>>>>>> 2) Any idea on extent to which lower level/internal components
>>>>>>>> should be exposed? (e.g. - Exposing "StreamDefinition" class in 
>>>>>>>> addition to
>>>>>>>> creating stream via Siddhi query using "siddhiManager.
>>>>>>>> createExecutionPlanRuntime"). I have heard that it is usually
>>>>>>>> discouraged to use lower level components instead of the query 
>>>>>>>> approach.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will try to send you a prototype covering basic functionality
>>>>>>>> through Siddhi Java API, before making the proposal for entire project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Madhawa
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Sriskandarajah Suhothayan <
>>>>>>>> s...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Madhawa Vidanapathirana <
>>>>>>>>> madhawavidanapathir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am an undergraduate from Department of Computer Science and
>>>>>>>>>> Engineering, University of Moratuwa. I recently completed my 
>>>>>>>>>> internship at
>>>>>>>>>> WSO2 working with the Support Team on the project WSO2 Support 
>>>>>>>>>> Knowledge
>>>>>>>>>> Base.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am interested on GSOC Project* "Proposal 16: Python API for
>>>>>>>>>> Siddhi CEP"*. My internship project at WSO2 was almost entirely
>>>>>>>>>> done using Python. Additionally, I used Py4J Framework to interface 
>>>>>>>>>> certain
>>>>>>>>>> parts of the project to JAVA APIs. Furthermore, I have a certain 
>>>>>>>>>> amount of
>>>>>>>>>> exposure with Siddhi/CEP through the WHACK project I took part.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I went through the provided details in WSO2 GSOC 2017 Project
>>>>>>>>>> List page and I am interested to know some more details.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    1. What version of CEP/Siddhi should be used by the API?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You need to support the latest released version of Siddhi and DAS
>>>>>>>>> which is in DAS 3.1 and also for the latest Siddhi (4.0)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    1. In the description, does "Service APIs" refer to "Admin
>>>>>>>>>>    Services API" which is usually used by Admin Panel to communicate 
>>>>>>>>>> with CEP?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, to deploy the queries and to send and receive events
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    1. Should the Siddhi Python API require WSO2 CEP to be
>>>>>>>>>>    running in order to make Python API usable?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not necessay it should both work with the running CEP/DAS and use
>>>>>>>>> Siddhi library in the ohter cases.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    1. Is the Python API expected to do configuring of Siddhi
>>>>>>>>>>    CEP, streaming events to/from Siddhi CEP, or both?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes in terms of queries.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank You
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> *Madhawa Vidanapathirana*
>>>>>>>>>> Student
>>>>>>>>>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>>>>>>>>>> University of Moratuwa
>>>>>>>>>> Sri Lanka
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *S. Suhothayan*
>>>>>>>>> Associate Director / Architect & Team Lead of WSO2 Complex Event
>>>>>>>>> Processor
>>>>>>>>> *WSO2 Inc. *http://wso2.com
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *Madhawa Vidanapathirana*
>>>>>>>> Student
>>>>>>>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>>>>>>>> University of Moratuwa
>>>>>>>> Sri Lanka
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *S. Suhothayan*
>>>>>>> Associate Director / Architect & Team Lead of WSO2 Complex Event
>>>>>>> Processor
>>>>>>> *WSO2 Inc. *http://wso2.com
>>>>>>> * <http://wso2.com/>*
>>>>>>> lean . enterprise . middleware
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Madhawa Vidanapathirana*
>>>>>> Student
>>>>>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>>>>>> University of Moratuwa
>>>>>> Sri Lanka
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mobile: (+94) 716874425 <071%20687%204425>
>>>>>> Email: madhawavidanapathir...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Linked-In: https://lk.linkedin.com/in/madhawa-vidanapathirana-3430b94
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> *S. Suhothayan*
>>>>> Associate Director / Architect & Team Lead of WSO2 Complex Event
>>>>> Processor
>>>>> *WSO2 Inc. *http://wso2.com
>>>>> * <http://wso2.com/>*
>>>>> lean . enterprise . middleware
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Madhawa Vidanapathirana*
>>>> Student
>>>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>>>> University of Moratuwa
>>>> Sri Lanka
>>>>
>>>> Mobile: (+94) 716874425 <071%20687%204425>
>>>> Email: madhawavidanapathir...@gmail.com
>>>> Linked-In: https://lk.linkedin.com/in/madhawa-vidanapathirana-3430b94
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *S. Suhothayan*
>>> Associate Director / Architect & Team Lead of WSO2 Complex Event
>>> Processor
>>> *WSO2 Inc. *http://wso2.com
>>> * <http://wso2.com/>*
>>> lean . enterprise . middleware
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Madhawa Vidanapathirana*
>> Student
>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>> University of Moratuwa
>> Sri Lanka
>>
>> Mobile: (+94) 716874425 <071%20687%204425>
>> Email: madhawavidanapathir...@gmail.com
>> Linked-In: https://lk.linkedin.com/in/madhawa-vidanapathirana-3430b94
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *S. Suhothayan*
> Associate Director / Architect & Team Lead of WSO2 Complex Event Processor
> *WSO2 Inc. *http://wso2.com
> * <http://wso2.com/>*
> lean . enterprise . middleware
>
>
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>



-- 
*Madhawa Vidanapathirana*
Student
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
University of Moratuwa
Sri Lanka

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