I'm sorry for not replying before. I didn't feel that the message was for me, since it should be pretty obvious that I'm interested in those projects. Here are some thoughts, though:

- It would be really nice to have committers for bookkeeper/hedwig;
- It would be really nice to have independent releases for bookkeeper/hedwig;
- It sounds like bookkeeper and hedwig don't always go together, and hdfs is an instance in which it happens. But, hedwig builds on top of bookkeeper (and other components), so using hedwig implies using bookkeeper. Consequently, if we choose only one to be a main project, perhaps bookkeeper would be a better choice;
- I don't think we have anyone who could be a project lead for these projects right now, so it could be a problem to split up at this point. For this reason, a zookeeper subproject sounds like a better option compared to incubator, unless we are able to find a project lead.

-Flavio

On Mar 2, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote:

i wanted to start a discussion about making hedwig and bookkeeper a
subproject. (actually pat started the discussion last month in general
about all of the contrib projects.) there are three questions, in my
mind, that we need to answer to move forward:

1) should it be a hedwig/bookkeeper subproject, or should there be two
separate projects? we need to build a developer community and i'm
wondering if we should try to build a single dev community or two. the
relationship is a bit asymmetrical: hedwig depends on bookkeeper, but
not visa-versa. i'm inclined to say we do a hedwig subproject and
include bookkeeper with it, but i don't feel strongly.

2) should we propose a subproject to zookeeper or to incubator? i'm a
bit more inclined to propose a zookeeper subproject simply because it
fits well with the zookeeper community, but it does introduce a bit
more overhead to the zookeeper PMC.

3) do we have the developer interest to make it happen in the first
place? i know we can get at least 3 initial committers from yahoo!,
but projects should be represented by multiple companies. (the goal is
at least 3.) so, is there interest in working on the project from
others?

please comment. these are all open issues, so opinions are what i'm
looking for. if there isn't much discussion, i think that will
implicitly answer 3 :)

thanx
ben

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