Hi Rakesh,

Thanks for looking at this. In general even if we find the bug since we
should test it before committing a fix, it seems better to remove the test
for now and debug this on a build machine. I'm trying to get access to it.

Looking at this log:
https://builds.apache.org/view/S-Z/view/ZooKeeper/job/ZooKeeper-trunk/2380/testReport/org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum/ReconfigRecoveryTest/testCurrentObserverIsParticipantInNewConfig/

Something weird is going on. Sever 3 hasn't started yet, but version 200000000
is already being sent around as committed!

2014-07-21 10:44:50,901 [myid:2] - INFO
[WorkerReceiver[myid=2]:FastLeaderElection$Messenger$WorkerReceiver@293]
- 2 Received version: 200000000 my version: 0


and also in leader election messages.

Also weird is that the version of 2 is 0 as if it is a joiner, whereas we
explicitly started it with 100000000.
Then it makes sense that the new config can't be committed since its
version is not high enough...

I wonder if its possible that not all servers from the previous test are
dead and they are interfering...


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:53 AM, Rakesh R <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Yeah it is consistently passing in my machine also.
>
>
> I have quickly gone through the
> testCurrentObserverIsParticipantInNewConfig failure logs in
> PreCommit-ZOOKEEPER-Build. It looks like 200000000 (n.config version) has
> not taken and still leader election is seeing 100000000 (n.config version).
> Unfortunately I didn't find the reason for not considering the updated
> config version.
>
>
> Reference:
> https://builds.apache.org/job/PreCommit-ZOOKEEPER-Build/2213/testReport/junit/org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum/ReconfigRecoveryTest/testCurrentObserverIsParticipantInNewConfig
>
> 2014-07-22 06:38:00,330 [myid:1] - INFO
>  [QuorumPeer[myid=1]/127.0.0.1:11298:FastLeaderElection@922] -
> Notification time out: 51200
> 2014-07-22 06:38:00,330 [myid:1] - INFO
>  [WorkerReceiver[myid=1]:FastLeaderElection@682] - Notification: 2
> (message format version), 1 (n.leader), 0x100000005 (n.zxid), 0x1
> (n.round), LOOKING (n.state), 1 (n.sid), 0x1 (n.peerEPoch), LOOKING (my
> state)100000000 (n.config version)
> 2014-07-22 06:38:00,331 [myid:2] - INFO
>  [WorkerReceiver[myid=2]:FastLeaderElection@682] - Notification: 2
> (message format version), 1 (n.leader), 0x100000005 (n.zxid), 0x1
> (n.round), LOOKING (n.state), 2 (n.sid), 0x1 (n.peerEPoch), LOOKING (my
> state)100000000 (n.config version)
> 2014-07-22 06:38:00,330 [myid:2] - INFO
>  [QuorumPeer[myid=2]/127.0.0.1:11301:FastLeaderElection@922] -
> Notification time out: 51200
> 2014-07-22 06:38:00,331 [myid:0] - INFO
>  [WorkerReceiver[myid=0]:FastLeaderElection@682] - Notification: 2
> (message format version), 1 (n.leader), 0x100000005 (n.zxid), 0x1
> (n.round), LOOKING (n.state), 1 (n.sid), 0x1 (n.peerEPoch), LOOKING (my
> state)100000000 (n.config version)
> 2014-07-22 06:38:00,331 [myid:2] - INFO
>  [WorkerReceiver[myid=2]:FastLeaderElection@682] - Notification: 2
> (message format version), 1 (n.leader), 0x100000005 (n.zxid), 0x1
> (n.round), LOOKING (n.state), 1 (n.sid), 0x1 (n.peerEPoch), LOOKING (my
> state)100000000 (n.config version)
>
>
> 2014-07-22 06:38:00,332 [myid:0] - INFO
>  [WorkerReceiver[myid=0]:FastLeaderElection@682] - Notification: 2
> (message format version), 1 (n.leader), 0x100000005 (n.zxid), 0x1
> (n.round), LOOKING (n.state), 2 (n.sid), 0x1 (n.peerEPoch), LOOKING (my
> state)100000000 (n.config version)
> 2014-07-22 06:38:00,332 [myid:1] - INFO
>  [WorkerReceiver[myid=1]:FastLeaderElection@682] - Notification: 2
> (message format version), 1 (n.leader), 0x100000005 (n.zxid), 0x1
> (n.round), LOOKING (n.state), 2 (n.sid), 0x1 (n.peerEPoch), LOOKING (my
> state)100000000 (n.config version)
>
>
> -Rakesh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Shraer [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 22 July 2014 11:57
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: ZooKeeper 3.5.0-alpha planning
>
> I tried to look into it, but the test consistently passes locally on two
> machines.
> I don't currently have access to the build machine, but I can try to ask
> for access.
> Unless anyone has a better suggestion, we could remove the failing test in
> the meanwhile and open a JIRA to add it back...
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Patrick Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'm seeing alot of test failures in
> > testCurrentObserverIsParticipantInNewConfig could someone take a look?
> > Seems related to ZOOKEEPER-1807 recent commit.
> >
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-1807?focusedCommentId=
> > 14069024&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-
> > tabpanel#comment-14069024
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Rakesh Radhakrishnan
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > lgtm +1
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:37 PM, FPJ
> > > <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1 for having an RC this week. Since this is an alpha release, I
> > >> +think
> > 72
> > >> biz hours is enough for the vote.
> > >>
> > >> -Flavio
> > >>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Patrick Hunt [mailto:[email protected]]
> > >> > Sent: 21 July 2014 18:55
> > >> > To: DevZooKeeper
> > >> > Subject: Re: ZooKeeper 3.5.0-alpha planning
> > >> >
> > >> > I fixed a number of issues. I also started a few threads with
> > >> > builds@
> > >> > - the ulimit issue is still outstanding. Hongchao and I worked
> > through a
> > >> > number of findbugs issues, it's not closed yet but it's pretty
> close.
> > >> >
> > >> > I don't see why we can't create an RC and start voting this week
> > though.
> > >> > Anyone disagree?
> > >> >
> > >> > How long should we let the vote run, the std 72 biz hours or
> > >> > should we
> > >> plan
> > >> > for more to allow folks more time to test?
> > >> >
> > >> > Patrick
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés
> > >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > > On 18 July 2014 10:32, Patrick Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> You may notice some back/forth on Apache Jenkins ZK jobs - I'm
> > trying
> > >> > >> to fix some of the jobs that were broken during the recent
> > >> > >> host upgrade.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > How are things looking? Is it likely that we can have a 3.5.0
> > >> > > alpha release week or are we still blocked on Jenkins?
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -rgs
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Patrick
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Michi Mutsuzaki
> > >> > >> <[email protected]>
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> > I'll check in ZOOKEEPER-1683.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Alexander Shraer
> > >> > >> > <[email protected]>
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> >> can we also have ZOOKEEPER-1683 in ? Camille gave a +1 and
> > >> > >> >> all
> > >> > >> subsequent
> > >> > >> >> changes were formatting as suggested by Rakesh.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Patrick Hunt
> > >> > >> >> <[email protected]
> > >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >>> I'm concerned that the CI tests are all failing due to,
> > >> > >> >>> for
> > e.g.
> > >> > >> >>> findbugs issues. At the very least our build/test/ci
> > >> > >> >>> should be pretty clean - some flakeys is ok (the recent
> > >> > >> >>> startServer fix
> > and
> > >> > >> >>> some other flakeys that have been addressed go a long way
> > >> > >> >>> on
> > that
> > >> > >> >>> issue) but I think the findbugs problem should be cleaned
> > >> > >> >>> up before we cut a release. I started a separate thread to
> > >> > >> >>> discuss
> > >> the
> > >> > findbugs issue.
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> Otw we seem to be in ok shape - 1863 is in.
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> Anyone have a chance to give feedback to Raul on 1919?
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> Patrick
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Flavio Junqueira
> > >> > >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>> > My take:
> > >> > >> >>> >
> > >> > >> >>> > - ZK-1863 is pending review. It is a blocker and it can
> > >> > >> >>> > go
> > in.
> > >> > >> >>> > See
> > >> > >> the
> > >> > >> >>> jira for comments.
> > >> > >> >>> > - We can try to have ZK-1807 in for the first alpha.
> > >> > >> >>> > - I'd rather not have the first alpha depending on
> > >> > >> >>> > ZK-1919
> > and
> > >> > >> ZK-1910,
> > >> > >> >>> we can leave it for the second alpha.
> > >> > >> >>> >
> > >> > >> >>> > If you agree with this, then we should be able to cut a
> > >> > >> >>> > candidate by
> > >> > >> the
> > >> > >> >>> end of this week.
> > >> > >> >>> >
> > >> > >> >>> > -Flavio
> > >> > >> >>> >
> > >> > >> >>> > On 15 Jul 2014, at 17:26, Patrick Hunt
> > >> > >> >>> > <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>> >
> > >> > >> >>> >> Per my previous note you can now see the c client test
> > >> > >> >>> >> log output
> > >> > >> here
> > >> > >> >>> >> in the "build artifacts" section:
> > >> > >> >>> >>
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >> https://builds.apache.org/view/S-Z/view/ZooKeeper/job/ZooKeepe
> > >> > >> r-
> > >> > trunk
> > >> > >> /2372/
> > >> > >> >>> >>
> > >> > >> >>> >> Patrick
> > >> > >> >>> >>
> > >> > >> >>> >> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Patrick Hunt
> > >> > >> >>> >> <[email protected]>
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>> >>> Update: we're back to 8 blockers on 3.5.0 (not clear
> > >> > >> >>> >>> to me which
> > >> > >> >>> >>> one(s?) is new?)
> > >> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>> Looks like the autoconf issue I reported is hitting
> > >> > >> >>> >>> the upgraded apache jenkins instances as well. I've
> > >> > >> >>> >>> updated the "archive" list
> > >> > >> to
> > >> > >> >>> >>> include the c tests stdout redirect. So while it won't
> > >> > >> >>> >>> go
> > to
> > >> > >> console
> > >> > >> >>> >>> at least we can debug when there is a failure.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>> Raul has been helping Bill with reviews for the jetty
> > server
> > >> > >> support
> > >> > >> >>> >>> and it looks like that should be ready soon.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>> Raul also requested that someone prioritize reviewing
> > >> > >> "ZOOKEEPER-1919
> > >> > >> >>> >>> Update the C implementation of removeWatches to have
> > >> > >> >>> >>> it
> > >> > match
> > >> > >> >>> >>> ZOOKEEPER-1910" so that we can include it in 3.5.0.
> > >> Flavio/Michi?
> > >> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>> Hongchao got a patch in to cleanup the flakey c client
> > >> > >> >>> >>> reconfig
> > >> > >> test -
> > >> > >> >>> >>> kudos on helping cleanup the build/test infra!
> > >> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>> Based on previous comments it looks like we're pretty
> > close.
> > >> > >> >>> >>> Do
> > >> > >> folks
> > >> > >> >>> >>> feel comfortable with a 3.5.0 alpha at this point?
> > >> > >> >>> >>> (with a few
> > >> > >> pending
> > >> > >> >>> >>> as above)
> > >> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>> Patrick
> > >> > >> >>> >>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Raúl Gutiérrez
> > >> > >> >>> >>> Segalés <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> On Jul 11, 2014 6:37 AM, "Flavio Junqueira"
> > >> > >> >>> <[email protected]>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>> Just so that we don´t delay too much, what if we
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>> release
> > an
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>> alpha
> > >> > >> >>> version
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> without 1863 and 1807, and do another one in 2-3
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> weeks
> > time?
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> +1
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> -rgs
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>> -Flavio
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>> On Thursday, July 3, 2014 6:12 AM, Raúl Gutiérrez
> > Segalés <
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>> On 2 July 2014 21:19, Patrick Hunt
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>> <[email protected]>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> Update: we're down to 7 blockers on 5.1.0 (from 8
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> in
> > the
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> last
> > >> > >> >>> check).
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> 1810 is waiting on feedback from Michi, and
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> Camille is
> > >> > >> threatening
> > >> > >> >>> to
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> commit 1863. I see some great progress in general
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> on
> > the
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> patch availables queue, which is great to see.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> So here's something else we might consider -
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> should we drop
> > >> > >> jdk6
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> support from 3.5. It's long since EOL by Oracle
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> but I suspect
> > >> > >> some
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> folks are still using ZK with 6. We gotta move
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> forward though,
> > >> > >> >>> can't
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> support it forever. Thoughts? Note that we are
> > currently
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> building/testing trunk against jdk6, 7 and 8.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/S-Z/view/ZooKeeper/
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>> Extra eyes/review for
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-1807
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>> would be appreciated (otherwise anyone using
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>> Observers with the
> > >> > >> >>> upcoming
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>> alpha release will see there network usage go
> wild...).
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>> -rgs
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> Patrick
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:26 AM, Flavio Junqueira
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> According to me, ZK-1810 should be in already,
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> but I need a +1
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> there. I
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> think Michi hasn't checked in because LETest
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> failed in the
> > >> > >> last QA
> > >> > >> >>> run
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> there. However, that patch doesn't affect LETest,
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> and
> > in
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> fact
> > >> > >> it
> > >> > >> >>> fails
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> in
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> trunk intermittently, so the test failure doesn't
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> seem
> > to
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> be
> > >> > >> >>> related
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> to the
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> patch.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> I haven't checked ZK-1863, so I can't say
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> anything concrete
> > >> > >> about
> > >> > >> >>> it.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> -Flavio
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:53 AM, Patrick Hunt <
> > >> > >> [email protected]>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Flavio, do you think those jiras can get
> > >> > >> reviewed/finalized
> > >> > >> >>> before
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>> the end of the week? I'd like to try cutting an
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>> RC
> > >> > soonish...
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>> Patrick
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Flavio
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>> Junqueira <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 for the plan of releasing alpha versions.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> I'd like to have ZK-1818 (ZK-1810) and ZK-1863 in.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> They are
> > >> > >> both
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> patch
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> available. ZK-1870 is in trunk, but it is still
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> open because we
> > >> > >> >>> need a
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> 3.4
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> patch.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> -Flavio
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 26 Jun 2014, at 01:07, Patrick Hunt
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
> > >> > >> >>> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey folks, we've been talking about it for a
> > while, a
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> few
> > >> > >> >>> people
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> have
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned on the list as well as contacted me
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> personally
> > >> > >> that
> > >> > >> >>> they
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> would like to see some progress on the first
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.5
> > >> > release.
> > >> > >> Every
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> release is a compromise, if we wait for
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> perfection we'll
> > >> > >> never
> > >> > >> >>> get
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> anything out the door. 3.5 has tons of great
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> new features,
> > >> > >> >>> lots of
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> hard work, let's get it out in a release so
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> that folks can
> > >> > >> use
> > >> > >> >>> it,
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> test it, and give feedback.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jenkins jobs have been pretty stable except
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> for the known
> > >> > >> >>> flakey
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> test
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> ZOOKEEPER-1870 which Flavio committed today to
> > >> > trunk.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Note
> > >> > >> that
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> jenkins has also been verifying the code on
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> jdk7
> > and
> > >> > jdk8.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's my thinking again on how we should plan
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> our
> > >> > >> releases:
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we'll be able to do a
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.x-stable
> > for
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> some
> > >> > >> time.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> What I
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> think we should do instead is similar to what
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> we
> > did
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >> > >> 3.4.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> (this is
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> also similar to what Hadoop did during their
> > Hadoop 2
> > >> > >> release
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> cycle)
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Start with a series of alpha releases,
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> something people
> > >> > >> can run
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> and
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> test with, once we address all the blockers
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > feel
> > >> > >> >>> comfortable
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> with
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> the apis & remaining jiras we then switch to
> beta.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Once we
> > >> > >> get
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> some
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> good feedback we remove the alpha/beta moniker
> > >> > and
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> look at
> > >> > >> >>> making
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> it
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> "stable'. At some later point it will become
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >> > >> >>> "current/stable"
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> release, taking over from 3.4.x.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> e.g.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.0-alpha (8 blockers) 3.5.1-alpha (3
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> blockers) 3.5.2-alpha (0 blockers) 3.5.3-beta
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> (apis locked) 3.5.4-beta 3.5.5-beta
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.6 (no longer considered alpha/beta but
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> also not
> > >> > >> "stable" vs
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> 3.4.x,
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> maybe use it for production but we still
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> expect things to
> > >> > >> shake
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> out)
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.7
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> ....
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.x - ready to replace 3.4 releases for
> > production
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> use,
> > >> > >> >>> stable,
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>> etc...
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are 8 blockers currently, are any of
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> these something
> > >> > >> that
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> should
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> hold up 3.5.0-alpha?
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll hold open the discussion for a couple
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> days. If folks
> > >> > >> find
> > >> > >> >>> >>>> this a
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> reasonable plan I'll start the ball rolling to
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> cut
> > an
> > >> RC.
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Patrick
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >>>>>>
> > >> > >> >>> >
> > >> > >> >>>
> > >> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>

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