Hi Christopher,

I’m happy to use the new, top-level view from now. Additionally I deleted all 
the disabled projects, as you said, we don’t need them anymore. I’m not sure 
about the rest, need to take a closer look.

Thanks for your efforts.

Andor




> On 2020. Mar 19., at 19:50, Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> That view only shows 23 of ZK's total jobs. I think that view should also
> be deleted in favor of the one at
> https://builds.apache.org/view/Z/view/ZooKeeper/
> Part of the impetus for creating individual tabs, one for each letter, is
> for stability, because when we group letters into groups, people feel the
> need to adjust them when one group gets bigger than others. This happened
> twice, and broke links. Having the top-level views of a single letter, and
> subviews under that creates stable, predictable links to job views.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:38 PM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> afaik this is the view (at least the one I use):
>> https://builds.apache.org/view/S-Z/view/ZooKeeper/
>> it's curated to maintain the current/active jobs for the current/active
>> branches and smattering of jdks for coverage.
>> 
>> Patrick
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:30 AM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> It sounds like there's at least the beginnings of consensus here.
>>> 
>>> So, I took a look at how ZK's jobs are configured in builds.apache.org,
>> in
>>> order to prepare to help make the change, and saw some stuff that was
>>> slightly upsetting (🙂), or at least daunting for whoever makes the
>> change:
>>> 
>>> 1. There are 45 Jenkins jobs for ZK. That seems insane to me. Is there
>> any
>>> old ones that can be removed? I'm not sure which the community finds
>>> valuable and which are excess, but all the disabled ones should probably
>> be
>>> deleted, because they are definitely not in use. It would be best if a
>>> committer could identify and delete the ones that aren't needed. That
>> will
>>> save some time in editing the configs to change the target email.
>>> 
>>> 2. I also noticed there's a top-level view at
>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/ZK%20All/ ; several years ago, I tried to
>>> get people to do a better job of keeping Jenkins views organized, so I
>>> created a new tab for each letter of the Latin alphabet to encourage
>>> projects to create subviews under that. ZooKeeper didn't have one, and
>> had
>>> the top-level view instead. So, I went ahead and created a new view at
>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/Z/view/ZooKeeper/ ; I think the top-level
>>> view at https://builds.apache.org/view/ZK%20All/should be deleted.
>>> 
>>> Once the extras repos are deleted, I'd be happy to be the one to
>> tediously
>>> update each job to point to the notifications list, but a moderator might
>>> need to approve the Jenkins sender. 🙂
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:18 AM Szalay-Bekő Máté <
>>> szalay.beko.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I also like it! It will make it easier for new community members to
>> joint
>>>> to discussions.
>>>> 
>>>> although it also means I will have to setup new filters now for
>>>> the notifications@ list ;)
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:52 PM RABI K.C. <ravow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Christopher,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am +1 on this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Rabi Kumar K C
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 10:25 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi ZK Devs,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have been trying to watch the ZooKeeper developer list lately, to
>>>>>> stay on top of latest issues, and to contribute in whatever small
>> way
>>>>>> I can. However, I noticed the list gets a lot of spam from
>> automated
>>>>>> notifications (especially Jenkins).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This has the effect of drowning out conversation between actual
>>>>>> humans, and can discourage participation, because it requires new
>>>>>> subscribers to set up a bunch of filters to suppress these, if they
>>>>>> don't want to see them (and they may unintentionally suppress human
>>>>>> conversation, if they don't set up their filters perfectly).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What do the ZK committers/PMC members think about having Jenkins
>> send
>>>>>> build notifications to the notifications@ list instead of dev@?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Christopher
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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