More specifically? Stable 3.5, 3.6, 3.7, 3.8 and EoL 3.5 at the end of the year (1st of Jan, 2023)?
Andor > On 2022. Feb 1., at 16:41, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > > "LTS" typically has meaning for folks beyond just what the words say. JDK > LTS. Ubuntu LTS. etc... I think it would be less confusing to stay with the > stable/latest labels we have had in the past and plan ahead a bit in terms > of giving notice when releases will be removed from support. > > Patrick > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 3:12 AM Andor Molnar <an...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi Andrew, >> >> I think that wasn’t a general plan from the community at that time, just >> my opinion based on how long 3.4 was the stable release of ZooKeeper (4 >> years). Since then the release schedule has become much faster and to be >> honest I’m not participating in it. >> >> As mentioned 3.6 and 3.7 releases are not much different. 3.6 is the >> “Facebook” version which is well tested and contains lots of patches that >> improves robustness. Both versions are good candidates for upgrade, so >> announcing 3.5 EoL (at least half year from now) is not necessarily bad. >> >> As an alternative, staying with the LT(S|M) / non-LT(S|M) terms, I think >> the following could also be considered for the community: >> >> Now: >> >> master >> ---------- >> 3.7 >> 3.6 >> 3.5 LTS >> ---------- >> 3.4 EoL >> >> Can become: >> >> master >> ---------- >> 3.8 LTS >> 3.7 >> 3.5 LTS >> ---------- >> 3.6 EoL >> 3.4 EoL >> >> In order to keep the number of maintained branches low. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Andor >> >> >> >>> On 2022. Jan 31., at 19:41, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> Just to be clear I meant 'you' as the ZooKeeper project as a whole, but >>> maybe I have misunderstood this response: >>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-17612?focusedCommentId=17311792&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17311792 >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 10:29 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Il Dom 30 Gen 2022, 17:51 Andrew Purtell <andrew.purt...@gmail.com> ha >>>> scritto: >>>> >>>>> Previously in various contexts - specifically, I am thinking of a >> Hadoop >>>>> JIRA where we once had a conversation on this topic, but I believe >> there >>>>> have been others - you have declared 3.5 a long term stable (LTS) >>>> release. >>>>> >>>>> A sudden EOL of an LTS is jarring and makes future promise of LTS >>>>> untrustworthy. What I would recommend for what it’s worth is a >> timetable >>>> to >>>>> EOL of 3.5 that is reasonably long, like one or two years, should you >>>>> decide to EOL it. >>>> >>>> >>>> I am sorry, >>>> I forgot about such conversation. >>>> >>>> Can you share some pointers ? >>>> >>>> No problem from my side as soon as there is someone who needs 3.5 and >> that >>>> is willing to help. >>>> >>>> Our codebase is pretty stable and we usually pay much attention to >>>> compatibility. So I am sure that 3.5 clients will be able to connect to >> new >>>> servers (and vice versa) >>>> >>>> I opened up this discussion to see how much interest is in the >> community, >>>> so from your response I understand that there is such interest. >>>> >>>> Thanks for answering >>>> >>>> Enrico >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 30, 2022, at 5:00 AM, Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> We are going to release 3.8.0. >>>>>> It is time to think about moving 3.5 to EOL. >>>>>> >>>>>> Key points: >>>>>> - we already have a few other "active" branches, 3.6 and 3.7 >>>>>> - 3.5 still has "ant" files, and cherry picking libraries upgrade is >>>>>> awkward (you always have to create a separate patch) >>>>>> - moving to 3.6 is quite easy, so people should not be stuck if >>>>>> requested to upgrade to 3.6 >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Enrico >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Andrew >>> >>> Unrest, ignorance distilled, nihilistic imbeciles - >>> It's what we’ve earned >>> Welcome, apocalypse, what’s taken you so long? >>> Bring us the fitting end that we’ve been counting on >>> - A23, Welcome, Apocalypse >> >>
