We're debating the relative meaning of numbers now, which means this thread has outlived it's usefulness.
Given pecan means a protocol feature regression for Adium, however small, I am against integrating it at this time. -- Steve Holt On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Christopher Forsythe <[email protected]>wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Eric Richie <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On Mar 23, 2010, at 9:31 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Augie Fackler <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Mar 23, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> >> Besides, I have provided crystal-clear numbers that show that >> >> end-users don't care about that, or at least, they care *way* more >> >> about fast file transfers. >> >> >> *Your* users[0] don't care. Ours very well might. >> >> >> You hit the keyword: *might*. You don't know. >> >> In fact, a cursory search of our trac suggests that we have active users >> depending on MSN <-> Yahoo support and filing bugs about it, so a regression >> like that would probably make a number of them pretty upset. >> >> >> Which tickets? I can only find *one*: >> http://trac.adium.im/ticket/7809 >> >> And that one is miss-categorized because the complaint is about MSN >> contacts in YIM, not the other way around. >> >> Your users probably tend to be the more savvy end of the crowd. Many >> low-end users never need file transfers and just use email anyway. >> >> >> That's speculation. You don't know. >> >> [0] In fact, your users that are able to properly triage a bug into the >> msn-pecan issue tracker, which implies an even higher level of >> sophistication than picking msn-pecan over the default prpl in the first >> place. >> >> >> All you need is to be logged in your Google account and click a star >> to vote... that's nothing sophisticated. >> >> >> > Replying to include Felipe since he is not subscribed and should see it. > > >> It doesn't matter how many people 'vote' on it. We've said time and time >> again, regressions are not something we're willing to just 'accept'. This >> isn't an issue of trading one major feature for another major feature. If >> regressions are going to cause us a support nightmare, it's not worth doing >> yet. Yes, 'yet'. Right now it really doesn't sound like a good option based >> on our already severely limited manpower. ...And if it's going to cause >> support issues when users start to complain that they can no longer chat >> with Yahoo contacts and our only answer is that we removed it? That takes >> even more of our time to deal with. That's not acceptable. That sort of a >> commitment just isn't doable for us based on our current available >> resources. >> >> -Eric >> >> >> >
