Yeah, the facebook plugin definitely needs to go. Just nobody's actually gotten 
around to writing a migration path for existing users yet.

        David

On Apr 10, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Alexander Golec wrote:

> Well I've set facebook up as a jabber account, and a few things come to mind. 
> For starters, there is now literally no indication of idleness. In addition, 
> I don't think there is any point in showing the jabber address of each 
> account in the mouseover. It has no identifying information, and just breaks 
> the nice layout of the box. 
> 
> Perhaps we can drop the old facebook chat plugin in favor of this jabber 
> implementation? For starters, it would do away with the major downside to the 
> old plugin, namely that it logs you out of the web client by mimicking the 
> web client interface. 
> 
> We would have to make it a little more streamlined, in that not everyone has 
> a facebook user name. In fact, I didn't until I installed this, and it kind 
> of bugs me that I'm going to appear in google now. We can always perform a 
> lookup somehow. The facebook plugin presumably had to do this, so we just 
> need to package a jabber plugin and call it a facebook plugin. 
> 
> Alex
> 
>> Didn't facebook release an xmpp protocol recently? If so, that'd be what I'd
>> look at first to see if that protocol indicates idle just with a generic
>> xmpp account. If it does, it's implementing that as an account type as the
>> path to take.
>> 
>> At least that's my take on it.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Alexander Golec <
>> 
>> alexgolecmailinglists at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> >
>>  Hey all,
>> 
>> >
>> >
>>         I've noticed that the facebook chat plugin gives no indication of
>> 
>> >
>>  when users are idle, unless they are 1. listed as available and 2. actually
>> 
>> >
>>  idle. Since there doesn't seem to be a way to divine idleness time like
>> 
>> >
>>  there is in aim, there is also no time next to their name. The result is
>> 
>> >
>>  that there is no way to tell if someone is idle except to mouse over their
>> 
>> >
>>  name.
>> 
>> >
>> >
>>         I'd like to fix this, and I'm like to know where to start. I assume
>> 
>> >
>>  there is some place where global status is determined, and if there is, I'd
>> 
>> >
>>  like to interface it better with the facebook plugin.
>> 
>> >
>> >
>>         If there are other protocols where this is an issue, I think this
>> 
>> >
>>  idea could make them work a little better as well.
>> 
>> >
>> >
>>  Alex
>> 
>> >
> 


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