On 22/08/19 20:29, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 08/22/19 08:18, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 21/08/19 22:17, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
>>> DMA protection of memory ranges is a chipset feature. For the current
>>> QEMU implementation, what ranges of memory are guaranteed to be
>>> protected from DMA?  Is it only A/B seg and TSEG?
>>
>> Yes.
> 
> This thread (esp. Jiewen's and Mike's messages) are the first time that
> I've heard about the *existence* of such RAM ranges / the chipset
> feature. :)
> 
> Out of interest (independently of virtualization), how is a general
> purpose OS informed by the firmware, "never try to set up DMA to this
> RAM area"? Is this communicated through ACPI _CRS perhaps?
> 
> ... Ah, almost: ACPI 6.2 specifies _DMA, in "6.2.4 _DMA (Direct Memory
> Access)". It writes,
> 
>     For example, if a platform implements a PCI bus that cannot access
>     all of physical memory, it has a _DMA object under that PCI bus that
>     describes the ranges of physical memory that can be accessed by
>     devices on that bus.
> 
> Sorry about the digression, and also about being late to this thread,
> continually -- I'm primarily following and learning.

It's much simpler: these ranges are not in e820, for example

kernel: BIOS-e820: [mem 0x0000000000059000-0x000000000008bfff] usable
kernel: BIOS-e820: [mem 0x000000000008c000-0x00000000000fffff] reserved

The ranges are not special-cased in any way by QEMU.  Simply, AB-segs
and TSEG RAM are not part of the address space except when in SMM.
Therefore, DMA to those ranges ends up respectively to low VGA RAM[1]
and to the bit bucket.  When AB-segs are open, for example, DMA to that
area becomes possible.

Paolo

[1] old timers may remember DEF SEG=&HB800: BLOAD "foo.img",0.  It still
works with some disk device models.

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