Hi Andrew,

I forgot about the library constraints.

Unless we want to first add a feature to build a library instance for each 
module type into
a different build output directory, we cannot support setting a FixedAtBuild 
PCD for each
module type.

If you use PatchableInModule, you can post process all the modules to set 
individual
module PCD values.  You have to do two steps.  One DSC to build all the modules 
and
generate AsBuiltInf.  2nd DSC/FDF that references the AsBuildInfs and sets the
PatchableInModule PCD values in the scope of the modules needed.

The only reason the different ARCHs for PEI and DXE works is because the libs
for each ARCH are build separately and already have different build output 
locations.

Mike



From: Andrew Fish <af...@apple.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 4:42 PM
To: devel@edk2.groups.io; Oram, Isaac W <isaac.w.o...@intel.com>
Cc: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kin...@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] PcdDebugPropertyMask in DSC: How to I set different 
values for PEI and DXE?




On Feb 17, 2022, at 4:26 PM, Oram, Isaac W 
<isaac.w.o...@intel.com<mailto:isaac.w.o...@intel.com>> wrote:

Andrew,

It is a reasonable ask, but I lean towards voting no.  We can more or less do 
the equivalent by breaking a monolithic build into a set of phase specific 
build/DSC/FDF or something similar.  That seems more flexible anyway.  Maybe we 
want binaries with settings based on maturity more than phase.  And so on.


My primary concern that the complexity added to an already complex feature.  
PCD have a lot of binary compatibility challenges anyway.  And this doesn't add 
any that don't already exist, but it does make it a lot easier to introduce a 
mismatch issue.


I shot my self in the foot with the Fixed* macro in a library so I did not get 
the drivers override. So I feel that pain. You need to used the non Fixed form 
from a lib to get the value from the global produced by the driver.



My more recreational question is if this makes sense in most cases, or if there 
are a limited set of PCD that it makes sense for.  A lot of similar PCD are 
much more like shared constants and thus it doesn't make a lot of sense for 
them to vary across executables.  E.G. drivers are asking for problems if they 
change max string lengths inconsistently. There are definitely more than one 
PCD where it seems reasonable.  Maybe they are the "wrong" type though.  Maybe 
they should be a dynamic type if a flexible usage is desired.


I was trying to have different settings for 
gEfiMdePkgTokenSpaceGuid.PcdDebugPropertyMask is regards to the action taken on 
an ASSERT.

To be honest it was not my 1st choice and I was working around some early boot 
exception handling code not saving the EFI_SYSTEM_CONTEXT and blocking the 
scheme I was trying to use.



Tangentially related, there was some previous work to make macros for phase 
architectures.

[Defines]
 PEI_ARCH                            = IA32
 DXE_ARCH                            = X64

Enabling [Components.$(PEI_ARCH)] and [Components.$(DXE_ARCH)]


In my case PEI_ARCH == DXE_ARCH so this kind of trick is not helpful. The 
reality is this trick only works for non virtualized X64 platforms and the edk2 
supports a lot more flavors of platforms than X64.

Thanks,

Andrew Fish


https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2308

If we do something with PCD, we should probably try to be consistent with this 
and maybe extend it or integrate it into DSC syntax.  With standalone MM, it 
probably makes more sense to have PEI, DXE, and SMM.  RT would also make sense 
to have different settings.  I have mixed feelings about BDS.  I think it makes 
sense to see it as a potentially independent phase that isn't currently.  But 
also probably won't ever be independent from DXE.

Regards,
Isaac


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Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] PcdDebugPropertyMask in DSC: How to I set different 
values for PEI and DXE?




On Feb 17, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Kinney, Michael D 
<michael.d.kin...@intel.com<mailto:michael.d.kin...@intel.com>> wrote:

I agree that your approach is the only way right now.

Do you have a feature request???

Well it does seem like a reasonable thing to be able to do? What do other 
people think?

I was able to refactor my code and I did not actually end up needing to 
override every PEIM and the PEI Core.

Thanks,

Andrew Fish



Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Fish <af...@apple.com<mailto:af...@apple.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:26 PM
To: Kinney, Michael D 
<michael.d.kin...@intel.com<mailto:michael.d.kin...@intel.com>>
Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io<mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] PcdDebugPropertyMask in DSC: How to I set different 
values for PEI and DXE?




On Feb 16, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Kinney, Michael D 
<michael.d.kin...@intel.com<mailto:michael.d.kin...@intel.com>> wrote:

Hi Andrew,

Current DSC syntax for platform scoped [PcdsXXX] sections only
supports CPU Arch and SKUID.

So there is no mechanism today to specify different PCD values based
on module type.

You can manage this in the DSC file, but it does require the module
scoped <PcdXXX> section for each module INF that requires a
different value that the platform scoped [PcdXXX] section.

Mike,

That is what I ended up doing, but it required overriding every PEIM and PEI 
Core. Seemed kind of excessive.

I think people cheat and use IA32 vs X64 to mean PEI vs. DXE on X64 platforms.

Thanks,

Andrew Fish


Mike


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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 1:02 PM
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Subject: [edk2-devel] PcdDebugPropertyMask in DSC: How to I set different 
values for PEI and DXE?

I’m trying to have a different platform policy for
PcdDebugPropertyMask in PEI and DXE. I can’t figure out how to do without 
overriding every PEIM that I build?

My PEI and DXE has the same arch so I can’t use the CPU Arch to tell them apart.

Is there something I’m missing?

Thanks,

Andrew Fish
















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