On 6/8/2023 10:48 AM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 at 19:39, Oliver Smith-Denny
<o...@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:
On 6/8/2023 10:23 AM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
Currently, we rely on the logic in DXE IPL to create new page tables
from scratch when executing in X64 mode, which means that we run with
the initial page tables all throughout PEI, and never enable protections
such as the CPU stack guard, even though the logic is already in place
for IA32.

So let's enable the existing logic for X64 as well. This will permit us
to apply stricter memory permissions to code and data allocations, as
well as the stack, when executing in PEI. It also makes the DxeIpl logic
redundant, and should allow us to make the PcdDxeIplBuildPageTables
feature PCD limited to IA32 DxeIpl loading the x64 DXE core.

When running in long mode, use the same logic that DxeIpl uses to
determine the size of the address space, whether or not to use 1 GB leaf
entries and whether or not to use 5 level paging. Note that in long
mode, PEI is entered with paging enabled, and given that switching
between 4 and 5 levels of paging is not currently supported without
dropping out of 64-bit mode temporarily, all we can do is carry on
without changing the number of levels.

I certainly agree with extending the ability to have memory protections
in PEI (and trying to unify across x86 and ARM (and beyond :)).

A few things I am trying to understand:

Does ARM today rebuild the page table in DxeIpl? Or is it using an
earlier built page table?

No. Most platforms run without any page tables until the permanent
memory is installed, at which point it essentially maps what the
platform describes as device memory and as normal memory.


If I understand your proposal correctly, with the addition of this
patch, you are suggesting we can drop creating new page tables in DxeIpl
and use only one page table throughout.
Yes.

Again, I like the idea of having
mapped memory protections that continue through, but do you have
concerns that we may end up with garbage from PEI in DXE in the page
table? For OEMs, they may not control PEI and therefore be at the whim
of another's PEI page table. Would you envision the GCD gets built from
the existing page table or that the GCD gets built according to resource
descriptor HOBs and DxeCore ensures that the page table reflects what
the HOBs indicated?

If there is a reason to start with a clean slate when DxeIpl hands
over to DXE core, I'd prefer that to be a conscious decision rather
than a consequence of the X64 vs IA32 legacy.

I think you can make a case for priming the GCD map based on resource
descriptors rather than current mappings, with the exception of DXE
core itself and the DXE mode stack. But I'd like to understand better
what we think might be wrong with the page tables as PEI leaves them.


On many platforms there are different "owners" for these different parts of firmware code.  The PEI phase is a place where the Silicon vendor and Platform teams must work together.  The Dxe Phase may have a different set of partners.  Industry trends definitely show more silicon vendor driven diversity in the PEI phase of the boot process and with this diversity it is much harder to make solid assumptions about the execution environment.   We have also discussed in the past meeting that PEI should be configurable using different solutions given it isn't a place where unknown 3rd party compatibility is critical.  This means that PEI might have different requirements than DXE and thus the configuration inherited from PEI may not be compliant. Additionally, the code and driver mappings from PEI phase should not be relevant in DXE.  Even with the same architecture being used these are different execution phases with different constructs.  Keeping the PEI code mapped will only lead to additional security and correctness challenges.  Finally, as an overarching theme of this project we have suggested we should not be coupling the various phases, their requirements, and their assumptions together.  You could just as easily apply this to DXE and SMM/MM.  These are all independent execution environments and the more we can provide simplification and consistency the better our chances are of getting correct implementations across the ecosystem.








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