2010/7/10 Rene Kluwen <rene.klu...@chimit.nl>:
> Passwords depend on system-ids. Not system-types. So per system-id you only 
> have to change one password.
>

I didn't say that. n fact, I said quite the opposite :P

> system-id1 pass system-type1
> system-id1 pass system-type2

Now, imagine you want to change password for system-id1 for security
reasons, you obviously _want_ (but not necessarily need) to do that 2
times, 1 time for each triplet. Therefore I don't see how using
system-type is going to be a time saver when several of them are used
for the same client organization: you really _want_ the changes you
make to system-id or password to be propagated to other accounts of
that organization.

Not to mention the fact that having non-empty system-type goes against
the common practice here but that's an entirely different matter :P

> I agree only partly with you. System-id would also have been an option. It's 
> just a choice that I made.
>
> == Rene
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Victor Luchitz [mailto:vluch...@gmail.com]
> Sent: zaterdag 10 juli 2010 9:16
> To: devel@kannel.org; Rene Kluwen
> Subject: Re: smppbox code questions
>
> In my opinion it doesn't make much sense to have things this way.
> First of all, you still need to list each
> system-id/password/system-type triple individually in the smpp-logins
> file:
>
> system-id1 pass system-type1
> system-id1 pass system-type2
>
> which is pretty much the same thing as:
>
> system-id1 pass1
> system-id2 pass2
>
> And now if you want to change password for system-id1, you still have
> to do it N times for each account individually. Same for the
> hypothetical client organization.
>
> More so, the current approach is more cumbersome due to the reason you
> can't have identical system-types for different system-ids because
> otherwise DLR's for two different ESME's can potentially collide. So
> basically, smppbox admin is forced to come up with 3 distinctive
> strings for each SMPP account.
>
> 2010/7/10 Rene Kluwen <rene.klu...@chimit.nl>:
>> The reason behind that is that it will allow the same system-id for multiple 
>> SMPP logins.
>> This can be the case of multiple different logins within the same client 
>> organization.
>> Besides that, there is no other particular use for the "system-type" 
>> parameter, so I thought I'd use that.
>> In the original smppbox code there was a limit to the maximum concurrent 
>> users that are allowed to login to 1 (one) among the same user-id.
>> This policy is not enforced anymore because the mainstream Kannel code 
>> (conn.c) lacks the shutdown_connection() function.
>>
>> == Rene
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Victor Luchitz [mailto:vluch...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: vrijdag 9 juli 2010 23:19
>> To: Rene Kluwen
>> Subject: Re: smppbox code questions
>>
>> Yeah, I was thinking about this "hack" as well, but it's going to
>> create more problems than it solves. Btw, why does smppbox use
>> system-type as boxc_id instead of ESME's login name? That forces
>> EMSE's to have distinct system-type values, while almost all SMSC'es
>> I've seen so far allow connections with empty system-type string, for
>> example.
>>
>> 2010/7/10 Rene Kluwen <rene.klu...@chimit.nl>:
>>> Heh... I think the way it works now is best for the average user.
>>> But I am sure you are competent enough to change it to your own needs.
>>> One "hack" that you can make is make the system-type of the client the same 
>>> as your smsc-id in your kannel.conf.
>>> This is of course not recommended for most persons, but it might work for 
>>> you.
>>>
>>> == Rene
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Victor Luchitz [mailto:vluch...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: vrijdag 9 juli 2010 22:39
>>> To: Rene Kluwen
>>> Subject: Re: smppbox code questions
>>>
>>> I have a pretty good idea how it works, it's just that the way it
>>> works doesn't suit my needs ;)
>>>
>>> 2010/7/9 Rene Kluwen <rene.klu...@chimit.nl>:
>>>> Surely this is relevant.
>>>>
>>>> Smppbox is not interested in bearerbox generated dlr's. It just needs to 
>>>> "dlr_find" the dlr's that it added itself via dlr_add.
>>>> Bearerbox takes care of its own dlr's. Smppbox also takes care of its own 
>>>> dlr's.
>>>>
>>>> I think you should re-read the code again to see how it works.
>>>>
>>>> == Rene
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Victor Luchitz [mailto:vluch...@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: vrijdag 9 juli 2010 15:35
>>>> To: devel@kannel.org; Rene Kluwen
>>>> Subject: Re: smppbox code questions
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but how is this relevant? I mean, there are two possibilities to
>>>> make smppbox be aware of bearerbox-generated DLRs:
>>>>
>>>> 1) use boxc_id as smsc-id in dlr_add in bearerbox and then pass the
>>>> report_mo message to smppbox without issuing dlr_find in bearerbox
>>>> 2) use "proper"/parent smsc-id in smppbox
>>>>
>>>> The whole issue arises from the need to pass SMSC-related DLR's to
>>>> smppbox without the later issuing any DLR's itself. For example, a MT
>>>> message may fail to be delivered due to insufficient funds on user's
>>>> account.
>>>>
>>>> 2010/7/9 Rene Kluwen <rene.klu...@chimit.nl>:
>>>>> If bearerbox sends a report_mo, then it should include a status (dlr 
>>>>> type) as well.
>>>>> Or am I wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> == Rene
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Victor Luchitz [mailto:vluch...@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: vrijdag 9 juli 2010 14:24
>>>>> To: devel@kannel.org; Rene Kluwen
>>>>> Subject: Re: smppbox code questions
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately there's currently no way to add a SMSC_SUCCESS or
>>>>> SMSC_FAIL DLR in smppbox so I have/need to do that in bearerbox. But
>>>>> oh, well, I'll just go with boxc_id as smsc-id and live with this
>>>>> fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/7/9 Rene Kluwen <rene.klu...@chimit.nl>:
>>>>>> But bearerbox inserts it's own dlr's. As does smppbox.
>>>>>> So bearerbox will find their dlr's. And smppbox will do also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> == Rene
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Victor Luchitz [mailto:vluch...@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: vrijdag 9 juli 2010 13:55
>>>>>> To: Rene Kluwen
>>>>>> Subject: Re: smppbox code questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, this is going against the logic in bearerbox. For example, if
>>>>>> you pass a DLR via standard Kannel HTTP protocol, bearerbox will try
>>>>>> to find a matching DLR using its own smsc-id, upon failing to do, it
>>>>>> won't pass the DLR to smppbox either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/7/9 Rene Kluwen <rene.klu...@chimit.nl>:
>>>>>>> The first parameter (smsc_id) is to determine "who's" dlr it is to 
>>>>>>> begin with. So in short: To which smsc it belongs.
>>>>>>> Because smppbox does things the other way around, it passes the boxc_id 
>>>>>>> variable. So if two boxes happen to have the same "ts" (which can in 
>>>>>>> theory happen) the value is used to distinguish to which box_id it 
>>>>>>> belongs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> == Rene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Victor Luchitz [mailto:vluch...@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: vrijdag 9 juli 2010 11:12
>>>>>>> To: devel@kannel.org; Rene Kluwen
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: smppbox code questions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On a side note, why does smppbox use boxc_id as the first parameter
>>>>>>> passed to dlr_add and dlr_find? Both functions take smsc_id as the
>>>>>>> first argument and boxc_id value is obtained from the sms struct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/7/8 Rene Kluwen <rene.klu...@chimit.nl>:
>>>>>>>> Done.
>>>>>>>> Current revision is 17.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: devel-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:devel-boun...@kannel.org] On 
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Victor Luchitz
>>>>>>>> Sent: donderdag 8 juli 2010 15:06
>>>>>>>> To: devel@kannel.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: smppbox code questions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, you committed the proposed change to boxc->boxc_id in revision
>>>>>>>> 15. What I'm asking about is the suggestion and patch I posted here:
>>>>>>>> http://www.kannel.org/pipermail/devel/2010-July/003653.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/7/8 Rene Kluwen <rene.klu...@chimit.nl>:
>>>>>>>>> It's already in the code.
>>>>>>>>> Current revision is 16.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> == Rene
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: devel-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:devel-boun...@kannel.org] On 
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Victor Luchitz
>>>>>>>>> Sent: donderdag 8 juli 2010 7:52
>>>>>>>>> To: devel@kannel.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: smppbox code questions
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any hope this will be reviewed and committed?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm also working on a patch that adds TLV support to smppbox but I'd
>>>>>>>>> like to get this one included first.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/7/6 Victor Luchitz <vluch...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> Yup, it's working fine now. Noticed there's another memleak though:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> another octstr_destroy(msgid); call is needed right after the:
>>>>>>>>>> /* we could not find a corresponding dlr; nothing to send */
>>>>>>>>>> line.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm also attaching another patch which allows transmission of custom
>>>>>>>>>> error codes in DLR's in the same manner as the message text bit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/7/6 Rene Kluwen <rene.klu...@chimit.nl>:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have no way of testing this here. But since either way cannot 
>>>>>>>>>>> harm I changed it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Current smppbox revision is now 15.
>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please check out and see if this fixes your problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> == Rene
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: devel-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:devel-boun...@kannel.org] On 
>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Victor Luchitz
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: dinsdag 6 juli 2010 14:53
>>>>>>>>>>> To: devel@kannel.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: smppbox code questions
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) I think this assumption is incorrect. I have the routing set up
>>>>>>>>>>> this way in bearerbox:
>>>>>>>>>>> group = smsbox-route
>>>>>>>>>>> smsbox-id = vma
>>>>>>>>>>> smsc-id = HTTP
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So all messages on the 'HTTP' smsc get routed to smppbox. However, 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> custom HTTP protocol in the above layer does not use dlr_find to 
>>>>>>>>>>> route
>>>>>>>>>>> messages to a specific box for two reasons:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a) wrong smsc-id is used in the query (bearerbox doesn't know that
>>>>>>>>>>> smppbox overrides the smsc id with system-type) so dlr_find always
>>>>>>>>>>> fails
>>>>>>>>>>> b) dlr_find removes DLR from the table and then subsequently readds
>>>>>>>>>>> it, which is rather stressful on the DB for no sane reason
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What it does instead is simply setting the sms_type to report_mo,
>>>>>>>>>>> leaving box_id empty as in regular MO messages.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/7/6 Rene Kluwen <rene.klu...@chimit.nl>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> To start with the last thing:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) You are right. It should use the msgid's in the dlr_url from 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the dlr instance. I changed it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> About 1): We assume msg->boxc_id and box->boxc_id are the same in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> this case. Otherwise the message wouldn't have ended up there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> == Rene
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: devel-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:devel-boun...@kannel.org] 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Victor Luchitz
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: maandag 5 juli 2010 20:36
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: devel@kannel.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: smppbox code questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a few questions for you regarding the handling of DLR's by
>>>>>>>>>>>> smppbox, which might also turn out to be bugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1)
>>>>>>>>>>>> In msg_to_pdu function there's a line which reads:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dlr = dlr_find(msg->sms.boxc_id, msgid, msg->sms.receiver, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> dlrtype);
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it's incorrect because when a DLR is stored by smppbox in
>>>>>>>>>>>> handle_pdu, the boxc_id it uses is that from smpp_logins file
>>>>>>>>>>>> (system_type). That in turn may cause dlr_find to always fail. So 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> my opinion the correct dlr_find call is this:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dlr = dlr_find(box->boxc_id, msgid, msg->sms.receiver, dlrtype);
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) another thing I find not quite correct is the way smppbox splits
>>>>>>>>>>>> message ids for concatenated DLR's. Basically, what smppbox does is
>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> parts = octstr_split(msg->sms.dlr_url, octstr_imm(";"));
>>>>>>>>>>>> msgid = gwlist_extract_first(parts);
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then it loops through all elements of the 'parts' list and here is
>>>>>>>>>>>> where the potential problem lies. smppbox assumes that msgid for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> concatenated DLR is always equal to dlr_url which is not always 
>>>>>>>>>>>> true.
>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, I think it's never true for concatenated DLR's stored by 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> dlr_add call in handle_pdu. Also, for example, the 'msgid' and
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'dlrurls' columns in the storage table can have different maxiumum
>>>>>>>>>>>> lengths, allowing truncation of the msgid. Here's my proposed fix -
>>>>>>>>>>>> add the following bit of code to msg_to_pdu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> gwlist_destroy(parts, octstr_destroy_item);
>>>>>>>>>>>> parts = octstr_split(dlr->sms.dlr_url, octstr_imm(";"));
>>>>>>>>>>>> gwlist_extract_first(parts);
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> right above the following bit:
>>>>>>>>>>>> if (gwlist_len(parts) > 0) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>    while ((msgid2 = gwlist_extract_first(parts)) != NULL) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Victor Luchitz
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>  Victor Luchitz
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>  Victor Luchitz
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>  Victor Luchitz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>  Victor Luchitz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>  Victor Luchitz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>  Victor Luchitz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>  Victor Luchitz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>  Victor Luchitz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>>  Victor Luchitz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Victor Luchitz
>>
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> --
> Best regards,
>  Victor Luchitz
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