I sure will do. But you are not helping out...
Nikos
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alejandro Guerrieri" <aguerri...@kannel.org>
To: "Nikos Balkanas" <nbalka...@gmail.com>
Cc: "Kannel Devel" <de...@vm1.kannel.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone
I think you'll survive ;)
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Alejandro Guerrieri
aguerri...@kannel.org
On 19/04/2011, at 11:12, Nikos Balkanas wrote:
If you don't want to use it just ignore it completely, the default
behavior if the directive is missing is to start the smsc at boot as
usual, so no > harm's done.
This is not the issue. I still have (along with many others) to know about
it in order to support it for users that ask (or not) about it. This
feature by itself is not that much, but cluttering configuration with
non-essential conveniences will add up to make configuration much more
difficult to support than now.
BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alejandro Guerrieri"
<aguerri...@kannel.org>
To: "Nikos Balkanas" <nbalka...@gmail.com>
Cc: "Juan Nin" <jua...@gmail.com>; "Kannel Devel" <de...@vm1.kannel.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone
For KISS's sake, this doesn't clutter configuration nor breaks backwards
compatibility. It doesn't hurt performance either.
If you don't want to use it just ignore it completely, the default
behavior if the directive is missing is to start the smsc at boot as
usual, so no harm's done.
Where do we trace the "absolutely necessary" line is of course fuzzy, but
from what I read seems like other users would find it useful as well.
Regards,
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Alejandro Guerrieri
aguerri...@kannel.org
On 19/04/2011, at 05:19, Nikos Balkanas wrote:
Hi,
wapbox must be kept around because of backwards compatibility, that is a
must for all open source software. Users are still using it.
Finally I would like to add my support for keeping configuration
explosion in check. Otherwise, what a few people might gain in
convenience, a lot of people might have to pay for it in terms of kannel
support due to more difficult configuration. Some golden rules in
configuration are:
1) KISS
2) Don't expand it, unless it is absolutely necessary.
Stopping service to modify configuration is a no-no. Commenting a
configuration file off-line is convenience.
My 2 cents,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- From: Juan Nin
To: Kannel Devel
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone
That's what we do today, but the idea is not to have to do any "extra"
work, neither having to comment/uncomment things out, nor have to
add/remove config files.
Having the start-at-boot directive allows you to just keep the
configuration defined, but the smsc does not start.
So anytime you need it, you just use the start-smsc and then the
stop-smsc.
This is much cleaner IMHO than having to do all the extra manual work, no
matter how easy that manual work it may be.
A similar discussion was held some months ago, can't remember what new
directive it was, where the directive was finally added, since it was
seen it was helpful.
Not all directives are used by everyone or may be useful for everybody,
that happens on any piece of software, but does not mean it's not useful,
nor that it should not be added. I don't care about the WAP related parts
of Kannel for example, and that doesn't mean I believe they should not
exist. Adding useful things to Kannel is something that makes Kannel a
better product, so I don't really see why not to add it. Maybe if it was
something complicated that really messed up with the code, could be, but
this is definitely not the case.
Just my 2 cents.
2011/4/18 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>
What about the HTTP command start-smsc:
It reloads the smsc and starts them from configuration. Therefore you
could have the smsc commented out at start, then enable it in the
configuration and start it from the web interface, without stooping
kannel. Is that not adequate?
BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Gottgens"
<tho...@ist.schuldig.de>
To: "Alvaro Cornejo" <cornejo.alv...@gmail.com>
Cc: "Alexander Malysh" <amal...@vm1.kannel.org>; "Kannel Devel"
<de...@vm1.kannel.org>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone
Hello,
i second that. Having the ability to start kannel with some of the binds
down
is so much easier in HA/Failover environments.
Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:31:05 PM, you wrote:
AC> Hi Alex
AC> Another use would be when having backup links. I do use over 20
modems
AC> but not have all enabled at start. In order to not to have to reload
AC> kannel when a new modem is needed, I do start kannel and then stop
all
AC> the backup modems and I have to do the same whenever I restart kannel
AC> or the server
AC> I'll love to have this feature in standard kannel
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Best regards,
Thomas mailto:tho...@ist.schuldig.de
