Jeff Duska wrote:
> 
> Okay guy, I've got my flame retardant suite back group the cleaner, so I
> read ask some bozo type questions.
> 
> I really don't like the X11 setup. It is just pain in my butt. I would like
> to more to something different in Mandrake. This brings up the old should we
> replace X, extended it and etc.  I think this is area where Mandrake can
> show its difference from RedHat.

Don't take me bad, but I think that you don't realize how BIG a project for
replacing X would be... MandrakeSoft simply can't do that. And I don't see
why this should be done. If you were saying that another graphical server
should be used instead of X, then explain me what X is lacking for you?

> My questions are as follows:
> 
>         Do we work with X?

???

>                 I'm leaning this way, because the alt. don't look that 
> impressive. Y looks like it is dead. Berlin looks interesting, but not 
> much progress. Do we start to work with these, or stick with X. I really 
> like to see something with better font support.

XFree86 version 4 will have integrated vectorial fonts. It will also
integrate a 3D engine at core.

>       Do we add GUI startup ...
>             I like Aurora --- I plan to set my system up to do this on startup. What 
>else should we do?

I don't know what is Aurora. Personnally, I like better starting a CLI
(Command Line Interface) than clicking like on grey buttons.

>         Display changes...
>                 I'd like have something like Windows has for configuring
> the GUI display -- the right mouse click thing.

You seem to really like the Windows's way of life... I don't see what is
wrong with editing a readable text file full of precise values... I prefer
that than to use a nice (?) interface with only basic options.

> The problem I get into, is I think I'm confusing X with window managers,
> with environments. I find all this a bit much for a new user to
> understand.

X is a graphical server, like any other server from the kernel point of
view. A window manager is a client for this server. It connects to X and
uses X ressources to display windows and stuff. Things are much cleaner than
with the pseudo graphical OS that you were refering to in the above (Windows
*IS* Dirty-Operating-System release 7, aka DOS7). In Linux, the graphical
chain is independant from the others. This is, imho, something which is just
more logical, and this is to a certain extent, what make Linux so stable.

Gregus

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