On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Tomáš Smetana <tsmet...@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> On Fri, 13 May 2016 15:49:45 -0400
> Stephen Gallagher <sgall...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 05/13/2016 03:34 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>> > On Fri, 2016-05-13 at 13:01 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> >> CCing the desktop list, but please keep replies on the Fedora devel
>> >> list.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At today's FESCo meeting[1], we raised several questions that we
>> >> would like to
>> >> have answered about this change.
>> >>
>> >> 1) Have the GNOME, Anaconda/Blivet and Cockpit folks agreed to
>> >> replacing Udisks2?
>
> As for Gnome: I think this has been sorted out -- as long as we don't break
> anything, nobody seems to have strong opinions about udisks2 vs storaged.
>
> Anaconda/Blivet has never been the udisks2 API consumer: the storaged
> dependency has been added for iSCSI support that was never present in udisks2.
>
>> >> 2) Is it expected to be a complete cutover (where we drop Udisks2
>> >> from the
>> >> default install and/or from the distro entirely
>
> The plan for storaged is to provide complete udisks2 API drop-in replacement:
> the dependent components should not notice. Once there is nothing requiring
> udisks2 itself there is no need to keep it in the distribution...
>
>> > udisks upstream is inactive and has recently expressed some interest in
>> > allowing the storaged developers to take over maintenance of udisks
>> > going forward. It would be better to first try merging the storaged
>> > changes into udisks instead; that way, we share the same code across
>> > all distros, without having to evangelize storaged vs. udisks.
>>
>> With respect, the reason storaged exists is because Udisks2 upstream
>> refused to accept patches to support LVM. I'm not saying we shouldn't try
>> to merge them back together, but the fork happened because upstream was
>> obstinate.
>
> Merging the code and joining forces would be of course the best way forward.
> I wouldn't care about the name of the result.
>
>> To the best of my knowledge (Tomas Smetana can correct me), storaged is a
>> proper superset (and has a more encompassing name), so my suggestion would
>> be to just make storaged the official upstream and migrate away from the
>> older Udisks2. (With a plan to deprecate the org.freedesktop.Udisks2
>> interface in 2-3 years in favor of the org.storaged.Storaged interface).
>
> There is no plan to deprecate the org.freedesktop.Udisks2 interface yet. And
> if the two projects merge again it's perhaps better to keep the old naming so
> the API consumers don't have to suffer unnecessary changes. The more
> important tasks for storaged would be improving scalability, adding more
> automated tests (especially for the new stuff), packaging for Debian/Ubuntu,
> etc...
>
> Regards,

This Change has been turned to System-Wide Change [1].

[1] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1568#comment:13


Regards,
Jan

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