On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Neal Gompa <ngomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> <zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 05:25:36PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 04:49:42PM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>>> > SUSE generates a random name of the format linux-XXXXXX (I'm not sure how 
>>> > many
>>> > My proposal is that we should consider changing the default hostname for 
>>> > Fedora
>>> > 26 to be either FED-XXXXXXXXXXX or FEDORA-XXXXXXXX. The former allows for 
>>> > a
>>>
>>> How about non-yelly Fedora-XXXXXXXXXXX? Since SUSE apparently does
>>> lower case, that should be fine, right?
>>
>> Bastian Nocera also filed 
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392925,
>> where he proposes "fedora" as the hostname. I think "fedora" is better than
>> "localhost", and a non-constant hostname would be even better.
>> For interactive installs (like with anaconda) it would be great if we could
>> ask for the hostname. For non-interactive ones, "Fedora-[0-9a-z-]{8}" seems
>> like a good option (*). It would give "branding", and solve the freeipa 
>> issues.
>> It would also be a good default for the interactive case, so that people can
>> "click through" without having to pick anything.
>>
>> (*) The suffix could include dashes for more possibilities, but they should
>> not be adjacent or at the end.
>
> I'm in favor of defaulting to "Fedora-[0-9a-z-]{8}" myself. However,
> I'm concerned that people don't realize that we can, in fact, set the
> hostname during installation. People usually don't because Anaconda
> doesn't currently make that mandatory or otherwise note that it's
> possible during the initial panel of spokes (hint: it's the networking
> spoke), and so the default of "localhost" continues on without anyone
> being the wiser.
>
>

If the hostname is non-constant, can we also arrange that, by default,
this hostname is never sent over the network?  In particular, I think
that DHCP requests should *not* include this hostname.  We're already
starting to randomize MAC addresses -- there's no reason to give a
persistent per-installation identifier to every network.
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