On 12 November 2016 at 13:14, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
<zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 11:17:39AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> On 11 November 2016 at 22:20, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
>> <zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 01:20:26PM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>>
>> >> I can't think of a reason why we'd need a cryptographically secure
>> >> transformation just to generate a random hostname.
>> >
>> > We want it cryptographically secure to preserve the machine-id. It's
>> > probably not too important in itself, but it's a good idea to keep
>> > it hidden because other hashes might be generated from it.
>>
>> Which lies in the problem. If people are going to derive hashes from
>> it they will do so any way the want and most likely it will be leaked
>> out by someone doing a sum  or just copying it etc. If there is
>> something 'unique' on a system, it will leak out eventually. All you
>> can do is try to design to drip out slowly or pour out all at once.
>> Trying to find some happy middle ground ends up usually with it
>> pouring out all at once when no one expected it.
>
> True. But one, it's not *that* important, it's not the root password
> or anything. But two, it'd say that we're designing it to drip out very
> very slowly.

Until someone decides that deriving the root password from the
machine-id is a good idea. In the end, I have said my piece.. you guys
have fun.

> Zbyszek
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