On Wed, 14.07.10 12:32, James Antill (ja...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 10:58 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said: > > > Since the acceptance by FESCO it has been added to Rawhide together with > > > patched or updated versions of a few related packages. However, what has > > > not been done so far is making it the default in Rawhide. So far it does > > > not "Obsolete" Upstart yet, just "Conflicts" with it. With this mail I > > > want to notify everybody that I am planning to do this change very soon > > > now (tomorrow?). Then, systemd will be pulled in onto your rawhide > > > system and is used exclusively for booting (so far, you can still choose > > > between it and upstart in grub, with a default on upstart), and problems > > > booting should be reported to systemd in rhbz then. > > > > This seems a little backwards. If we want to support both, then we need > > to just leave it as 'Conflicts', and we'll just flip the default in > > comps. By marking it as 'Obsoletes', you effectively make it impossible > > to still boot with upstart, as it will be removed in any yum update. > > But then nobody will have systemd by default, it'll requiring using > "yum shell" to manually move to it and thus. it'll get very little > testing. > I'd suggest one of two things: > > 1. Have systemd "Obsolete: upstart <= 0.6.5-5.fc14", and then bump the > release on upstart. This means people doing "yum update" will move to > systemd, but people will have a choice by upgrading upstart.
Yes, this is exactly what I have in mind. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
