On 2 February 2017 9:06:32 pm GMT+00:00, Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com> 
wrote:
>On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 3:38 AM, David Woodhouse <dw...@infradead.org>
>wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure the upgrade method matters, does it? In both cases I
>think
>> it was changes to dracut and the way raid was assembled (perhaps
>moving
>> from automatically in the kernel to doing it in userspace, or vice
>> versa).
>
>The upgrade method does matter because fedup had its own dracut
>variant. Systemd offline updates (used also by upgrades) uses the
>existing initramfs prior to the upgrade and a special, minimalist,
>boot target. So if the system boots normally before the update or
>upgrade, it should boot and assemble fine for the offline update. It
>could fail following a successful upgrade however - if there's some
>new previously undiscovered bug.

Fedup has not existed for a few releases now. The upgrades are handled by dnf 
alone.

Dennis
>
>>
>>> > So let's please ensure that we have proper
>>> > test coverage for existing systems.
>>>
>>> Please describe your proposal for ensuring proper test coverage, in
>>> particular if you personally aren't able to test what is by
>definition
>>> a custom layout?
>>
>> Nono, this *isn't* a custom layout. It's a fairly standard RAID
>setup.
>
>All RAID setups are custom layouts insofar as they're only created
>with custom partitioning. There is only one default layout used by the
>installer.
>
>
>> But if we change the defaults, then I suppose that retrospetively
>> *makes* it a "custom layout"... at least in the sense that we can
>> reasonably expect it to keep breaking every release or two :(
>
>It suggests it's not getting enough testing and asking someone else to
>test it probably will have no effect. Again, if there's a particular
>layout you want to make sure is working, you need to test it, or maybe
>write up an openQA test for it, so it can get automatically tested by
>a bot.
>
>
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