On 2018-05-03, Tomas Orsava <tors...@redhat.com> wrote: > On 05/02/2018 05:14 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >> On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 11:10:05AM -0400, Siteshwar Vashisht wrote: >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berra...@redhat.com> >>>> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" >>>> <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> >>>> Cc: "Kamil Dudka" <kdu...@redhat.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:49:18 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 10:35:28AM -0400, Siteshwar Vashisht wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Tomas Orsava" <tors...@redhat.com> >>>>>> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" >>>>>> <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>, "David Kaspar" <dkas...@redhat.com>, >>>>>> "Kamil Dudka" <kdu...@redhat.com>, "Miro Hrončok" <mhron...@redhat.com>, >>>>>> "Petr Viktorin" <pvikt...@redhat.com>, >>>>>> "Siteshwar Vashisht" <svash...@redhat.com> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 3:23:10 PM >>>>>> Subject: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone see a reason not to prioritize ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin? >>>>> Most of the discussion in this thread focuses on security rather than >>>>> sane behavior. It is going to be a system wide change. An application >>>>> may get affected if it depends on system provided utilites which gets >>>>> overridden by ~/.local/bin. >>>> [snip] >>>> >>>>> So this change breaks something that is outside user's installation. >>>>> This should happen only if a user has explicitly overriden $PATH to >>>>> prioritize user installation paths. >>>> Not prioritizing user paths by default will break other things though. >>>> For example, python pip installations done with --user. >>> Things may break both ways, whether you choose to prioritize user >>> installation paths or not. I will prefer if they break when user >>> installation paths are not prioritized. > > Daniel answered—below—better than I could have. > I'd just like to add that while things *may* break if we implement > this—anything can break after all—the fact remains that things already > *are* broken the way it is now. > > And debian/ubuntu already prioritize ~/.local/bin, so we're not going > into untested waters either. > >> The point was that we need a consistent approach - we can't just consider >> $PATH in isolation, because it interacts with other search paths, either >> in env vars or builtin to apps. Either all should honour user location >> first, or all should honour system location first, a mix of both is the >> worst of all possible worlds as it maximises chances of breakage. >> How does prioritized ~/.local match removing #!/usr/bin/env from Fedora packages? It smells pretty inconsistently.
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