----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Kofler" <kevin.kof...@chello.at>
> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 7:10:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Minimization Objective report
> 
> Adam Jackson wrote:
> > You're right, you spend two months achieving zero towards this goal,
> 
> Well, just a few days ago, I managed to stop a Change that would have almost
> doubled Python 3's size wherever both the python3 executable and the
> libpython3 library are needed, and to point out an alternative (though Jan
> Kratochvil beat me to it by ~64 minutes) that brings the same performance
> gain without the size increase (-fno-semantic-interposition).
> 
> I am constantly trying to fight bloat, but it is usually a political rather
> than a technical fight. And the typical outcome (see, e.g., MiniDebugInfo)
> is where my "defeatist attitude" comes from.
> 
>         Kevin Kofler
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I'm sorry but how exactly did you manage to 'stop' the change? All you did was 
started shouting about the size increase and then proposed something already 
mentioned beforehand in the thread.

Your feedback was NOT helpful and it basically pushed people away from wanting 
to participate to the thread. Luckily sorting through the useful info was 
possible but still frustrating in between your rants.

We heard the feedback and did a lot of experimentation and benchmarking with a 
ton of different options so I really can't fathom how you are taking credit for 
something that others invested so much time in.

/offtopic rant over

-- 
Regards,

Charalampos Stratakis
Software Engineer
Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat
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