----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Seewald" <tseew...@gmail.com>
> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:35:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality
> 
> > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 11:07 PM Bill Chatfield via devel
> *snip*
> > True. Nobody cares about Java packages in fedora, not even Red Hat
> > employees. If you look at the members of the Java SIG, a lot of them
> > were (or still are) Red Hat employees. For example, even JBoss /
> > WildFly (a pretty big Java project by Red Hat) was unmaintained and
> > broken, and most of it has now been removed from future fedora
> > releases. I wonder what they are going to do with RHEL 9 - maybe
> > somebody notices their stuff isn't available on fedora anymore.
> 
> Do you happen to know what the Red Hat employees who maintain Java-based
> products use as their desktop OS? RHEL? macOS?

As a Hatter, I'm proud to say that I--and most all of my team--use
Fedora for our work machines. I run F31 without modular repos on all
four of my boxes in my home office.

I work on Dogtag PKI (https://www.dogtagpki.org), a private CA, built
on top of a Tomcat/Java stack.


Responding to the JBoss dismissal: JBoss is its own product and doesn't
have the goal of shipping on Fedora before it ships in its own product.
All of the JBoss packages maintained in Fedora are maintained by the
community (including non-JBoss Red Hatters) who need them in other
packages.

Concretely, if you'd like to see more JBoss packages, join us in the
Stewardship SIG and collaborate to revive the ones you care
about. :-)


- Alex


N.B.: I'd like to thank the Red Hat JVM team for being solid in
their Fedora execution. But they maintain only the JVM, and not
the rest of the Java ecosystem. :-)

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