On Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 08:44 John M. Harris Jr, <joh...@splentity.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, February 9, 2020 3:54:51 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 5:36 PM John M. Harris Jr <joh...@splentity.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Friday, January 31, 2020 7:58:55 AM MST Peter Robinson wrote:
> > >
> > > > Feankly if a proprietary piece of software hasn't migrated in 8+
> years
> > > > I
> > > > would be looking for a replacement.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Proprietary software works at the speed of eventually. This is why RHEL
> > > maintains compat libraries going back a ridiculous amount of time, and
> > > why
> > > RHEL 5, for example, is still used today.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > At some point, someone has to push to eject button. Speaking from
> > experience, it's rare that ISVs are willing to be proactive and move
> > forward as the community does. The difference between FOSS ISVs and
> > proprietary software ISVs is that the community cannot do anything to
> > help fix software for the latter. They only move forward when forced to.
> >
> > I'm sorry, but it simply does not make sense to keep gstreamer0.10 in
> > Fedora anymore. I don't say that lightly: the first package I ever
> > contributed to Fedora was a pygtk2 application using gstreamer0.10
> > called oggconvert. But it is dead this days, and I retired it for
> > Fedora 31. Nobody is caring for these things, and stuff like this is
> > usually a source of major security issues.
> >
> > Even today, those people using RHEL 5 are only *now* moving to RHEL 7
> > because it was EOLed three years ago. Folks depending on RHEL 6 who
> > are slow to move are starting their plans to move to RHEL 8. It is
> > what it is. But Fedora is not RHEL. Fedora is supposed to be the place
> > where everything happens first. And if we want RHEL releases without
> > old, unmaintained stuff, we have to chuck it in Fedora first.
>
> I don't know about you, but I'd rather the software keeps working, rather
> than
> ceasing to function because a library it depends on is no longer
> available. As
> long as it builds and functions, why remove it?
>

Because it implies it's supported for things like security updates and
related things where in reality the gst 0.10 series hasn't been for the
best part of a decade and when it comes to media and dealing with internet
streams/media that is a real life security problem. The fact it builds is
but one part of the overall problem.

-- 
> John M. Harris, Jr.
> Splentity
>
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