On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 09:31, clime <cl...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Adam!
>
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 08:58, Adam Saleh <asa...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Nice, I have been trying to fight through the 'git context already missing' 
> > with pure lua rpm macros,
> > and so far was hitting walls left and right :-)
> >
> > Will look at https://pagure.io/rpkg-util, might have more questions :-)
>
> You have probably already noticed...the docs at
> https://docs.pagure.org/rpkg-util/index.html
> are for rpkg-util version that is currently in Fedora but it contains
> some nice introduction, nevertheless.
>
> The (newer) git version from the pagure repository has some features
> (e.g. git_release macro),
> which are not yet documented there.
>
> man page of the git version ($ man rpkg) is up to date, however.
>
> Thank you for looking at it.
> clime

...in case of any questions i am on this email or on #fedora-apps. Again,
thanks for looking at it. Cheers.

>
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 12:20 AM clime <cl...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello!
> >>
> >> On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 at 17:50, Pierre-Yves Chibon <pin...@pingoured.fr> 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Good Morning Everyone,
> >> >
> >> > This topic has already been discussed a few times over the past month, 
> >> > but Adam
> >> > Saleh, Nils Philippsen and myself have had the opportunity to invest 
> >> > some time
> >> > on it with the hope of making the packager's life simpler as well as 
> >> > making it
> >> > easier to build automation around our package maintenance.
> >> >
> >> > We have investigated a few ideas, the full list with their pros and cons 
> >> > can be
> >> > found in this document: https://hackmd.io/8pSwJidhTYel9euQqMEKpw?viev
> >> > If you have any questions about some of these, please ask them, we'll be 
> >> > happy
> >> > to answer them and potentially complete this document.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > For both the release and the changelog fields we believe using RPM 
> >> > macros would
> >> > satisfy the requirements we have for opting-in/out:
> >> >   - You can easily opt-in by using the macros
> >> >   - You can easily opt-out by removing the macros from your spec file
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > For the changelog, we believe we have a potential good solution:
> >> > - The changelog will be automatically generated using an external 
> >> > `changelog`
> >> >   file as well as the commit history
> >> >   - When you opt-in, you will simply move the existing changelog to an 
> >> > external
> >> >     file `changelog`, which is placed in the dist-git repo and add the
> >> >     appropriate macro.
> >> >   - Upon building, the macro will generate the changelog using all the 
> >> > commits
> >> >     of the repo up to the last commit touching the `changelog` file. Of 
> >> > all
> >> >     these commits it will only consider the commits following these 
> >> > rules:
> >> >     - There are generally two approaches regarding what to include by 
> >> > default:
> >> >       1. commits touching only the `sources`, `.gitignore`, 
> >> > `dead.package`
> >> >          files, `tests` folder will be ignored by default, i.e. a 
> >> > blacklist
> >> >       2. only commits touching the spec file or patches will be included 
> >> > by
> >> >          default, i.e. a whitelist
> >> >       ==> Which approach do you think is better/will work in most cases?
> >> >     - empty commits (not touching any files) will be included on the 
> >> > assumption
> >> >       that this is their purpose
> >> >     - commits containing "magic keyword" (#changelog_exclude,
> >> >       #changelog_include?) will be ignored or included as the case may be
> >> >   - Finally the content of the changelog file specified will be appended 
> >> > to the
> >> >     changelog generated from the git history
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If you wanted to edit the changelog, you would:
> >> > - Generate the changelog locally via a command like:
> >> >   `fedpkg generate-changelog > changelog`
> >> > - Edit `changelog` as desired
> >> > - Commit and push the changes
> >> >
> >> > Since the macro will only consider the commits up to the first commit 
> >> > touching
> >> > `changelog` (in other words, the macro will only consider the commits 
> >> > after this
> >> > one) and include `changelog` file as is, your edits will appear in the 
> >> > RPM
> >> > changelog as you want.
> >> >
> >> > One thing to note is that rebuilds from the same commit will have the 
> >> > same
> >> > %changelog, they will not get a new entry. If you want a new changelog 
> >> > entry,
> >> > you have to create a new commit with the desired changelog entry as 
> >> > commit
> >> > message (the commit itself can be empty).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > However, for the release field, we are struggling a little bit more, two 
> >> > options
> >> > are more appealing to us:
> >> >
> >> > A) The release field is automatically generated using two elements:
> >> >   - the number of commits at this version
> >> >   - the number of builds at this commit
> >> >   - the dist-tag being added after them
> >> >   The release field would thus look like:
> >> >     ``<number of commit at version>.<number of build at commit>%{dist}``
> >> >
> >> > So we could have:  (A, B, C and D being different commits)
> >> >  A -- version: 0.9 -- release: ?
> >> >  |
> >> >  B -- version: 1.0 -- release: 1.0
> >> >  |
> >> >  C -- version: 1.0 -- release: 2.0
> >> >  |
> >> >  D -- version: 1.1 -- release: 1.0
> >> >
> >> > A rebuild of the commit D, would lead to a release 1.1 (assuming the 
> >> > first one
> >> > succeeded)/
> >> >
> >> > Pros:
> >> >  - Easy to replicate locally
> >> >  - Every changelog entry can be mapped to a `version-release` (No 
> >> > changes to the
> >> >    packaging guidelines)
> >> >  - Allows triggering two builds from the same commit without any manual 
> >> > change
> >> >    (simplifies mass-rebuilds)
> >> >  - Easy to link a certain build with a specific commit
> >> >  - Easy to “guess” the next release value before triggering the build
> >> >
> >> > Cons:
> >> >   - Old packages which are no longer receiving upstream releases may need
> >> >     special care (for example if they are at the release -48 but only 
> >> > had 45
> >> >     commits leading to this)
> >> >   -  Relies on information from the build system for the build number 
> >> > (but can
> >> >      be closely simulated locally since the <n_build> info is only used 
> >> > for
> >> >      rebuilds)
> >> >   -  Upgrade path may be problematic if Fn is upgraded to version X with 
> >> > one
> >> >      commit while Fn-1 is upgrade to version X with 2 commits (or more)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > B) The release field is automatically generated taking existing builds 
> >> > in all
> >> > current Fedora releases (ie: rawhide, Fn, Fn-1...) into account. This 
> >> > means for
> >> > builds of the same epoch:version, find a new release that (if at all 
> >> > possible)
> >> > ensures upgradability from older Fedora versions to newer ones, adhering 
> >> > to the
> >> > structure of a release tag documented in the Versioning Guidelines[1]. 
> >> > Going
> >> > from the (RPM-wise) "latest build" that the new one should surpass, this 
> >> > can
> >> > mean bumping in the front (`pkgrel`) or the back (`minorbump`).
> >> >
> >> > This allows packages from "very stable" upstreams who haven't released 
> >> > in years
> >> > to still benefit from automatically generated releases.
> >> >
> >> > The following examples would use a macro for the release field as 
> >> > outlined in a
> >> > separate document[2].
> >> >
> >> > Example #1 ("normal" release progression):
> >> >  Rawhide has: 2.0-1.fc32
> >> >  F31 has: 1.0-1.fc31
> >> >  F30 has: 1.0-1.fc30
> >> >
> >> >  Next release in F31: 1.0-2.fc32
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Example #2 ("hotfix" in an older release, selected by an alternative 
> >> > macro (or
> >> > option) in the spec file):
> >> >  Rawhide has: 2.0-1.fc32
> >> >  F31 has: 1.0-1.fc31
> >> >  F30 has: 1.0-1.fc30
> >> >
> >> >  Next release in F30: 1.0-1.fc30.1
> >> >
> >> > Example #3 (pre-release, selected by an alternative macro (or option) in 
> >> > the
> >> > spec file):
> >> >  Rawhide has: 2.0-1.fc32
> >> >  F31 has: 1.0-1.fc31
> >> >  F30 has: 1.0-1.fc30
> >> >
> >> >  Next release in Rawhide: 3.0-0.1.20200224git1234abcd
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Pros:
> >> >   - Allows triggering two builds from the same commit without manual
> >> >     intervention
> >> >   - Emulates what many maintainers do manually today for most use cases
> >> >   - Can cater for pre-releases (e.g.: by offering different macros or 
> >> > macro
> >> >     options for the different use cases)
> >> >
> >> > Cons:
> >> >   - Needs the build system for information about builds in this and 
> >> > other Fedora
> >> >     versions
> >> >   - Not easy to reproduce locally because we don’t have 
> >> > machine-consumable
> >> >     knowledge about other builds in e.g. the dist-git repo
> >> >   - Does not allow to generate changelog entries with `version-release`
> >> >     information for all commits (and this will require a change in our 
> >> > packaging
> >> >     guidelines)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > So these are the results of our current investigations, we are very much 
> >> > eager
> >> > to get your feedback on them and even more eager if you have ideas on 
> >> > how to
> >> > approach/solve some of the challenges mentioned here.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Looking forward for the discussion,
> >> >
> >> > Pierre
> >> >   For Adam, Nils and myself
> >>
> >> What is the point of including number of builds into release? I think
> >> the Miro's approach solves it.
> >> Or is there any other problem except soname bumps?
> >>
> >> Ad. document - annotated git tags:
> >> (-) Editing the changelog would mean allowing to remove the git tags,
> >> thus leading to potential issue in build reproducibility
> >>
> >> That doesn't need to be the case. In rpkg-util, this was resolved by
> >> introducing arguments since_tag and until_tag
> >> for git_changelog macro
> >> (https://docs.pagure.org/rpkg-util/macro_reference.html#git-macros).
> >> That's
> >> how it can be prevented for some annotated tag to contribute to changelog.
> >>
> >> Example:
> >>
> >> {{{ git_changelog since_tag=name-1.3-1 }}}
> >>
> >> * Mon Feb 24 2020 clime <cl...@fedoraproject.org> 1.2-1
> >> - manual changelog entry that is used instead of a tag annotation
> >>
> >> {{{ git_changelog until_tag=name-1.1-1 }}}
> >>
> >> Removing already pushed git tags is probably not a good idea anyway:
> >> https://git-scm.com/docs/git-tag#_on_re_tagging
> >>
> >> Ad. the following approach for calculating release:
> >> - Compute the release field from the number of commits since the last
> >> version change: <version>-<commits_number>%{dist}
> >>
> >> I think it is a good idea. In rpkg-util, it is done similarly, except
> >> the release part has more subparts than just
> >> two (including %{dist}).
> >>
> >> The full description is here:
> >> https://pagure.io/rpkg-util/blob/master/f/man/rpkg_man_page.py#_262
> >> but the main difference is that it counts commits from the latest
> >> annotated tag which contains (in its name)
> >> the current version and the current release number which are extracted
> >> from the spec file when
> >> creating the tag unless they are specified manually on command line.
> >> Commit count is only appended
> >> to it if we build from commit which is on top of some annotated tag
> >> (i.e. it is itself untagged).
> >>
> >> Going by just a textual version change in a spec file might be slightly 
> >> tricky.
> >> You would need to go through all the past commits that touched that spec 
> >> file,
> >> keep checking these out and look if the version is changed when compared 
> >> to the
> >> one parsed from the head commit. Possible though.
> >>
> >> To go back to your original post:
> >> > For both the release and the changelog fields we believe using RPM 
> >> > macros would
> >> > satisfy the requirements we have for opting-in/out:
> >>
> >> By using such RPM macros, you would lose ability to rebuild srpms
> >> because it will
> >> be only possible to build them when the git context is present but not 
> >> when they
> >> become a standalone thing. I.e. things like this will not work:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/blob/cfe34c8a57/mock/py/mockbuild/backend.py#L270
> >>
> >> That's why I think that such macros should be of a different kind:
> >> macros that are computed
> >> once when srpm is created and result of which is put _verbatim_ into
> >> the spec file so that
> >> there is no (re)computation later when srpm is being built and when
> >> the git context is already
> >> missing.
> >>
> >> This approach is taken in the rpkg-util project
> >> (https://pagure.io/rpkg-util). I really
> >> recommend looking at it as I spent more than a year solving this
> >> particular problem with
> >> changelog and release (but actually not only that problem) and I also
> >> optimized the macros there
> >> as much as I possibly could.
> >>
> >> If you want to play around with it, you can download the latest
> >> version from here:
> >>
> >> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/clime/rpkg-util/
> >>
> >> and try it on this:
> >>
> >> https://pagure.io/hello_rpkg
> >>
> >> clime
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1]: 
> >> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Versioning/
> >> > [2]: https://hackmd.io/kuXOPe74RfepuztBz7pBsg
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