On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 17:07, Michal Schorm <msch...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Will anybody be able to explain to me the current state of the
> containers & containerization in Fedora, please?
>

Hi Michal,

As you mention in the points below the current state of building containers
in Fedora needs a lot of work. I started the Container SIG couple years
ago, but we did not managed to build a good momentum to it. For a year or
so we had a few people attending meeting and going through some of the
tasks but 2019 has been hard on us and all the container activities have
had a lower priority for each of the members

So currently the SIG is kind of dead . I personally try to focus on the
Fedora base image and make sure it has regular releases and I try to
respond to the bugs on BZ. For layered images I just keep OSBS up to date
and running, but I cannot really work on the tooling improvement and policy
improvement.

If this is something you really would like to see improving, maybe you can
try to resurrect the Container SIG and start with the list of issues you
have listed :-).

Hope that helps.
Clément


>
> I have some questions, but the more I searched for whom & where to
> ask, the more confused I became.
>
> --
>
> 1) There ́s an IRC on freenode, '#fedora-containers' channel.
> The TOPIC set contains the following message:
> "The place for container runtimes and application containers.
> Forums @ https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/containers,
> visit the site @ https://containers.fedoraproject.org
> (website operational at some point in August)."
> However no link mentioned are accessible.
>
> 2) There is 'Fedora Container & Tools Documentation' [1]
> It is only half-filled with information, some part missing entirely.
> Even parts as 'Container Guidelines' [2].
> Btw the wiki gladly redirects there ^ [3].
> Btw there are some scratch notes about the guidelines from damn 2017
> [4], which google offers me rather than the actual guidelines (because
> they don't exist)
>
> 3) So ... who is in charge of it? Whom to contact? How? Where?
> Does Fedora count with Containers or does it already thrown it overboard?
>
> 4) The container I am maintainer of (in pagure in 'container'
> namespace) is not branched automatically. The last branch is 'f30',
> but now I want to update it and add the missing branches. I have no
> idea how should I do it though, since (1) (2) are such a mess.
> I can try 'git push', but anyway, it won't solve the issue, it's not
> branched automatically.
>
> 5) The Dockerfile (are we still using this name? shouldn't it be
> 'containerfile' now, with podman?)
> starts with line like:
> " FROM registry.fedoraproject.org/f30/....."
> How can I substitute the Fedora release version with a variable, so I
> can share the same content amongst branches for different Fedora
> releases?
>
> [1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/containers/
> [2] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/containers/guidelines/guidelines/
> [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Container:Guidelines
> [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Container:Guidelines
>
> --
>
> Michal Schorm
> Software Engineer
> Core Services - Databases Team
> Red Hat
>
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