On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 19:15, Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:48:55AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > Some failure of process or communication must have occurred
> > somewhere along the lines, because open source should have been the
> > first and most important requirement. A proprietary software
> > solution is incompatible with the ethos and purpose of the Fedora
> > project. I ask CPE to revise its requirements list to include open
> > source as the first and most important requirement from the Fedora
> > community. If that's incompatible with CentOS's need for merge
> > request approvals or whatever else, then we need to accept that
> > sharing the same forge is simply not going to work.
>
> Obviously open source is one of our key foundations. And it is part of who
> we are even before those foundations were drafted. Nonetheless, I want to
> gently discuss this a little bit. We make an entirely open source and free
> software operating system. We support and promote and advocate for open
> source and free content. But we can't do everything, and at some point, this
> becomes "this is why we can't have nice things". I see that you've made
> contributions to other open source projects on GitHub and (hosted) GitLab
> this month. Lots of Fedora contributors have and will continue to do so.
> Many use that as their main hosting. It's not ideal, but it's not the end of
> the world. I don't see Fedora making use of non-open hosted services as the
> end of the world either, if that is what is best for us.

That's a false equivalence. Yes, many of us maintain projects on
GitHub and/or GitLab due to a variety of reasons, but if any of them
die tomorrow, I simply change the "upstream" in my clones and keep
going. If Fedora starts using GitLab EE for its dist-git, for example,
and GitLab dies tomorrow, then we have a very big problem.

Iñaki
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