On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 20:05, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
<zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm a bit late to the party, but here's my 2¢.
>
> On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 05:05:02PM +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > In the packit project, we work in source-git repositories. These are
> > pretty much upstream repositories combined with Fedora downstream
> > packaging files.
>
> I think source-git would be an interesting avenue to explore...
> There's some hairy issues to figure out wrt. to rebasing of
> downstream-only patches, but if that is solved, there would be great
> potential to make certain styles of packaging much nicer.
>
> For more complicated projects, rebasing of patches would require some
> git wizardry, but we'd reap the benefit of how good git is with
> rebasing patches. From the workflows people described, it is clear
> that many of us are doing some variant of a custom git branch to make
> rebasing easier, building custom tooling around that.
>
> > Would there be an interest within the community, as opt-in, to have
> > such source-git repositories created for respective dist-git
> > repositories? The idea is that you would work in the source-git repo
> > and then let packit handle synchronization with a respective dist-git
> > repo.
>
> I agree with what Miro and others said about this: this brings a lot
> of complication. I expect requirement to have synchronization both
> ways is going to be a constant source of problems. We lose the
> invariant that dist-git is the canonical source of truth. (Automatic
> synchro is OK if it's just one way, but here it clearly needs to be
> both ways because some maintainers would modify source-git and other
> maintainers would modify dist-git.)
>
> IMO, source-git as a third repo in between the project and dist-git is
> not useful. Instead, it would make sense when integrated with dist-git.

I am curious. Zbyszek, what do you mean by "integrated with dist-git", here?

> Tools like fedpkg and koji would need to learn to build a project
> directly from this git repo, building a tarball on the fly. (What
> smooge said about reliability: I wouldn't worry too much. 'git archive'
> is reliable, and we'd be doing this locally, so this wouldn't be too
> different from copying a tarball.) We then have a dist/source-git repo
> that is very similar to upstream, and we don't have yet another component
> in the system, but simple change how patches are represented in dist-git.
>
> (Hybrid approaches like Debian's quilt model don't make sense to me:
> let's either use git or not use git, but doing both, and requiring
> people to much with patch files is no better than our current dist-git.)
>
> > Our aim is to provide the contribution experience you have in
> > GitHub when working on your packages. Dist-git would still be the
> > authoritative source and a place where official builds are done - the
> > source-git repo would work as a way to collaborate. We also don’t have
> > plans right now to integrate packit into fedpkg.
>
> I don't get this. We need fewer (and better, more closely integrated)
> tools, not yet another layer of helpers for other helpers.
>
> Zbyszek
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