On Monday, July 6, 2020 3:03:05 PM MST Peter Robinson wrote:
> > > It's less complex to maintain one solution for both types of boot, I'd
> > > imagine. I'm not the one that'd be doing the work to support it, so far
> > > be it from me to prevent somebody from doing so, but that's just what
> > > it sounds like. Right now, we have one solution that works well for
> > > both.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > If we wanted to be UEFI first, we could make BIOS boots emulate UEFI
> > and boot through the UEFI chain all the way through. We already do
> > this for some boards on ARM with U-Boot, if I remember correctly. If
> > that were possible on x86, then we could get down to one boot chain
> > path regardless.
> 
> 
> No, U-Boot is the firmware, it now implements a UEFI interface as a
> means of interacting with OS/bootloaders for booting OSes in a generic
> manner. It's not emulated, it is the interface between the firmware
> (U-Boot) and the computer, for aarch64 it's mandated that the board
> firmware implement UEFI to be supported in Fedora, whether that's the
> Tianocore, U-Boot or another third party implementation, open or
> proprietary we don't care.
> 
> Why would you wrap BIOS with another firmware implementation? You're
> just making the problem worse. Fact is that while it won't go away
> particularly fast we should actually be looking at sunsetting
> traditional BIOS support, it's not secure or securable. MS has
> mandated it for the Windows logo program to be certified HW since
> Windows 8, they've now mandated that for server as well, in both cases
> now requiring TPM2.
> 
> Don't hack up BIOS support, it vaguely sort of works now, leave it
> vaguely working and just let it be, it's not evolving. One day we'll
> wake up and no one will be using it, the sooner the better.

That day is still decades away, as others in this list have noted. I agree 
with the rest, of course. Just let it be.

-- 
John M. Harris, Jr.

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