On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 00:06, Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 08:04:42PM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:43:35PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:39 PM Panu Matilainen <pmati...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 1/21/21 1:27 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:22 PM Panu Matilainen <
> pmati...@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 1/21/21 9:56 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > > > >>> With rpm-4.15.1-3.fc32.1.x86_64, I get this error:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> $ rpm -qip
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/Everything/aarch64/debug/tree/Packages/m/ModemManager-debugsource-1.14.10-1.fc34.aarch64.rpm
> > > > >>> error: /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.6iU66n: signature hdr data: BAD, no. of
> bytes(88084) out of range
> > > > >>> error:
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/Everything/aarch64/debug/tree/Packages/m/ModemManager-debugsource-1.14.10-1.fc34.aarch64.rpm:
> not an rpm package (or package manifest)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Is this expected?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Certainly not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> It seems that rpm-4.16.1.2-1.fc33.x86_64 can parse the RPM just
> fine.
> > > > >>> But rpm-4.14.3-4.el8.x86_64 does not like it, either.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Based on a quick random sampling, this would appear to be a very
> recent
> > > > >> thing, the only affected packages I could find (which doesn't mean
> > > > >> others couldn't exist) were built in the last few days, such as
> the
> > > > >> above and these:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/Everything/aarch64/debug/tree/Packages/n/net-snmp-debugsource-5.9-4.fc34.aarch64.rpm
> > > > >>
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/Everything/aarch64/debug/tree/Packages/n/NetworkManager-debugsource-1.30.0-0.2.fc34.aarch64.rpm
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ...which were all built on Jan 18th. The only recent change to
> rpm is
> > > > >> the DWARF-5 support but based on changelogs that seems to have
> landed
> > > > >> the day after, so I dunno.
> > >
> > > (snip)
> > >
> > > > > Is it possible that this was triggered by switching on signed RPM
> contents?
> > > > > If I understand the implementation correctly, it messes with the
> RPM headers.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, I wasn't aware the file signing proposal had been approved, much
> > > > less enabled. I thought I raised "some objections" on the enablement
> of
> > > > the feature from rpm maintainer perspective.
> > >
> > > It has *not* been approved (yet). Which is why I grumbled about
> > > enabling the signing in production infra during yesterday's FESCo
> > > meeting.
> >
> > Oh, I didn't fully understand your comment at the time. I automatically
> assumed
> > that "enabled in production" only means that the *code* is there, i.e.
> that
> > the version of rpm has been updated in preparation. Actually enabling
> this
> > while the proposal is being discussed is definitely NOT OK. It makes
> > mockery of the whole Change process and deliberation on fedora-devel and
> > the fesco ticket.
>
> I tried to explain this at the meeting, but I guess I was too terse.
>
> First, let me say that I (and I am pretty sure everyone involved) was
> unaware of the rpm bug. I hope Patrick will chime in, by my
> understanding is that rpm specs said they changed this to 64MB, but the
> commit involved only changed it to 64k. :(
>
> This is unfortunate and I am sorry it happened.
>
> We don't currently have a signing setup in staging that allows testing
> this, and wanting to make sure everything worked we put it in place.
> I did not know that it would cause this issue or I would not have
> allowed it to be deployed. On the other hand, we now know about this
> issue instead of learning about it after the mass rebuild is over.
>

+1 I think we should actually be celebrating the fact that we have enabled
this early and found a problem before the mass rebuild.
That's the whole point behind continuous integration and getting early
feedback.


>
> We can disable it before the mass rebuild if desired easily enough.
>
> Note that in the past we have, multiple times, changed the rpm format in
> ways that are not compatible with the current rhel versions of rpm. We
> have in the past always gotten rpm maintainers to update rhel (at least
> the most recent ones) to accomodate this.
>
> I don't think this is a "mockery" of the change process, I think it's a
> case where early testing caught issues before the item landed.
>
> Anyhow, I accept full blame, please send your pitchforks and torches my
> way...
>
> Now back to trying to get armv7 builders stable before mass rebuild.
>
> kevin
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