On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 12:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 14:58 -0400, John Poelstra wrote:
> > Adam Williamson said the following on 10/06/2010 01:32 PM Pacific Time:
> > > On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 12:58 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > >> Hi, everyone. So we partly used the proposed new nice-to-have bug
> > >> tracking system during the F14 Beta process, and it seemed to go well.
> > >> In a quick burst of airport productivity, I've quickly written up a
> > >> bunch of proposed new wiki pages and modifications to existing ones to
> > >> document the nice-to-have process (and, incidentally, extend
> > >> documentation of the blocker process, since we don't seem to have much
> > >> of it beyond the blocker meeting SOP right now). All the pages can be
> > >> found here:
> > >>
> > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:NTH_adjustment_drafts
> > >
> > > Thanks to James for his feedback on this. I haven't had much feedback
> > > from anyone else. However, given that in practice everyone involved in
> > > the release review process has been happy using the NTH system drafted
> > > here so far, I intend to make the draft changes final (with
> > > modifications to reflect James' feedback) by the end of the week, so if
> > > you have any feedback you've been sitting on, now would be the perfect
> > > time to send it :) Thanks everyone!
> > 
> > Can you be more specific as to which page we are actually giving 
> > feedback on?  There are five of them there and they almost all look the 
> > same.
> 
> All of them. They're mostly modifications of existing pages. I'm not
> quite sure how you get that they look the same, they're very different.

General note ... There are a few broken links on this page.  I didn't
inspect *all* of them, but it looks like they will resolve once you've
moved the documents into their proposed locations.  So probably not a
big deal, I can understand the desire to not change the links before and
after moving the pages into their final location.

> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_desktop_results_nth_adjust 
> is a proposed change to 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_results_template .

Good stuff.

> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_desktop_validation_nth_adjust
>  is a proposed change to 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing .

Same as above, equally as wholesome :)

> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_meeting_nth_draft
>  is a proposed change to 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting .
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process_nth_draft
>  is a proposed new page; it's not particularly specific to the nice-to-have 
> proposal, actually, it just became apparent while I was doing this that we 
> have no page which explains the entire blocker bug review process, and we 
> should have one. This is it.

Funny how when you've been involved in a process for a while, you forget
which parts aren't clearly documented/described for others to engage.
Nice addition.

> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/QA:SOP_nth_process_nth_draft is 
> a proposed new page which covers the whole nice-to-have review process much 
> as the above proposed page covers the blocker review process.

My first reaction looking at the proposed blocker and nth process SOP
pages was that they should be combined into a single page, since there
is a lot of duplicate document structure/format.  But I can't think of
any good proposals to offer at the moment that make it better (not
worse).  It seems you've already been down this route too.

Perhaps a reflection on my visual learning habit, I've been playing
around with some minor edits of the 2 previous wiki pages that make it a
bit easier for me to rapidly locate/grok information without too much
reading.  Of course, let me know if the edits are too invasive or
detract from your intended message.

> I included a summary of the whole proposed NTH process in my initial
> review request mail. These are the wiki changes necessary to document
> that process.

Thanks,
James

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