On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 10:26 AM Justin Forbes <jmfor...@linuxtx.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 3:23 PM Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 02:57:17PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> > > >We'll at least gather information about capabilities of Fedora
> > > >users hardware.
> > > Telemetry is evil. It must not be allowed.
> >
> > Well, that's certainly A Position. I don't think it's anything nearly so
> > absolute, though, and depends on what, who, how, why, and a host of other
> > things. And "it can help us answer questions like this for our community" is
> > a pretty non-evil "why".
>
> I think there can be a lot of benefit in anonymized hardware data (not
> mandatory).  It does help answer questions like this, but more
> importantly, it would make a lot of the kernel work a bit easier, or
> at least more focused.   It answers questions like, "should we enable
> these drivers as they are likely to be used?" or "can we disable these
> drivers because no one is using them?". It is also very helpful in
> working out bug priority in drivers.  A lot of people never bother
> filing bugs, and are happy to keep booting a known good kernel since
> we allow parallel installs. If we get a few users chiming in, and
> realize the hardware in question is used by a significant chunk of
> users, it would  tell me that perhaps that should take priority over a
> bug which impacts hardware with considerably fewer users.   Yes, you
> have to be extremely careful about what data you collect, and how that
> data is handled, but if done correctly, there are a lot of benefits.


I agree. I'm curious how many folks have TPMs at all, if they're 1.2
enabled or 2.0; whether the system is Secure Boot capable, enabled or
disabled; whether the firmware is BIOS, UEFI, coreboot.


-- 
Chris Murphy
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