On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 08:37:03AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 20 2021 at 07:29:16 AM -0400, Neal Gompa
> <ngomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Most of our rules are designed to make sure there's someone ultimately
> >responsible for everything going into Fedora. Unfortunately, bots are
> >the opposite of that, because there's no one to reach to stop bad
> >behavior when it happens.

> Hm, this seems pretty simple to solve though, right? Allow bots to
> submit updates on behalf of packagers, but not with their own bot
> FAS accounts.

Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water.

A human *is* responsible and known. When a bot account is given
permission, we make sure that there's a known human behind the account.
Things are no other in this particular case, see the original ticket [1].

Actually, if the bot were using their human's account, things would be *less*
transparent. By using a separate account, we are making it clear that
this update stream is made by this particular bot (as opposed to e.g.
some human occasionally using a script to release some updates).

[1] https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2228

> This would be like how GNOME package updates currently
> work, where a bot does the hard work but a human is ultimately
> responsible (and subscribed to each bodhi update, so feedback will
> at least not be completely missed).

The line can be a big hazy, but I'd say that if:
- a human is just using a script or even a some program to fire off
  the update — this particular person's account must be used.
- some bot prepares the update, but a human still need to make the final
  step and may or may not publish the update: probably better to do it
  using this person's account.
- the bot is set up once and then keeps releasing updating until stopped,
  and may be managed by multiple people — a separate bot account is preferable.

Zbyszek
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